Owner experience with HG one grinder - Page 37
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Beats the heck out of me but when my wood stove & humidifier battle it out the wood stove always wins.
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I cooked on a woodstove for 20 years so I feel your pain!!
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Wanted to add my thoughts on some of the recent posts (and I apologize if I'm duplicating something from a previous post I missed):
1. Regarding static, I agree this is something the HG One folks should look into improving in a v2 of the grinder. That said, I'm interested to know if other people have significant static on the bottom of the burrs themselves. The only place I ever get significant static retention is on the funnel, and since the funnel is just held on by magnets, as part of my routine I just drop the funnel into the tumbler and it knocks out the coffee (usually there is no static, but not always). It literally takes 2-3 seconds. In other words, static is not a concern for me.
2. While I think it's useful to compare things like grind quality and build quality between the HG One and commercial grinders, it seems misguided to compare prep time - it's kind of like complaining that a motorcycle is not a car. As a hand grinder it's pretty much guaranteed to be slower than a commercial grinder. My prep looks almost exactly like this, http://hg-one.com/paul-grinds/ , with the exception of the funnel drop and I don't weigh the basket after. If this doesn't compare favorably with your current routine, there shouldn't be any surprises.
More importantly, if you're willing to (and can afford) a big commercial grinder in your home, I wouldn't recommend swapping it out for an HG One. From my perspective, I wanted the quality of a titan conical, but without the expense and without a gargantuan piece of ugliness in my kitchen. I upgraded to the HG One from a Baratza Vario, and I couldn't be happier. I would NOT have been willing to upgrade to something like a K10 or a Robur or a K30 Vario. For me, the HG One hit the sweet spot among the following choices:
1. OE Pharos - even more work than the HG One, and design aesthetics were not a consideration with the Pharos.
2. Mahlkonig Pro M Espresso - From the reviews I've read, this seems to be the highest quality grinder intended for home use. I chose the HG One because it is considerably cheaper, has better aesthetics and better build quality (or, at least, it's not ensheathed in plastic).
It seems to me that the HG One hits its niche perfectly, but it is definitely not the niche for all people.
1. Regarding static, I agree this is something the HG One folks should look into improving in a v2 of the grinder. That said, I'm interested to know if other people have significant static on the bottom of the burrs themselves. The only place I ever get significant static retention is on the funnel, and since the funnel is just held on by magnets, as part of my routine I just drop the funnel into the tumbler and it knocks out the coffee (usually there is no static, but not always). It literally takes 2-3 seconds. In other words, static is not a concern for me.
2. While I think it's useful to compare things like grind quality and build quality between the HG One and commercial grinders, it seems misguided to compare prep time - it's kind of like complaining that a motorcycle is not a car. As a hand grinder it's pretty much guaranteed to be slower than a commercial grinder. My prep looks almost exactly like this, http://hg-one.com/paul-grinds/ , with the exception of the funnel drop and I don't weigh the basket after. If this doesn't compare favorably with your current routine, there shouldn't be any surprises.
More importantly, if you're willing to (and can afford) a big commercial grinder in your home, I wouldn't recommend swapping it out for an HG One. From my perspective, I wanted the quality of a titan conical, but without the expense and without a gargantuan piece of ugliness in my kitchen. I upgraded to the HG One from a Baratza Vario, and I couldn't be happier. I would NOT have been willing to upgrade to something like a K10 or a Robur or a K30 Vario. For me, the HG One hit the sweet spot among the following choices:
1. OE Pharos - even more work than the HG One, and design aesthetics were not a consideration with the Pharos.
2. Mahlkonig Pro M Espresso - From the reviews I've read, this seems to be the highest quality grinder intended for home use. I chose the HG One because it is considerably cheaper, has better aesthetics and better build quality (or, at least, it's not ensheathed in plastic).
It seems to me that the HG One hits its niche perfectly, but it is definitely not the niche for all people.
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"Gargantuan piece of ugliness" certainly describes my Bunn G3 but the K10 base is actually narrower then the HG-One base & it stands only .75" taller in single dose/hopperless mode. A little more portly for sure. Personally I think the K10 is rather handsome in black, especially with the EP skull & crossbone decal on the side.sashaman wrote:
More importantly, if you're willing to (and can afford) a big commercial grinder in your home, I wouldn't recommend swapping it out for an HG One. From my perspective, I wanted the quality of a titan conical, but without the expense and without a gargantuan piece of ugliness in my kitchen.
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"hopperless" being the key term there....nothing (IMO) worse aesthetically than a hopperless grinder.
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You should see how handsome she(?) is in polished aluminum! The K10 is NOT ugly and definitely even more NOT ugly without the hopper, IMHO.JohnB. wrote:"Gargantuan piece of ugliness" certainly describes my Bunn G3 but the K10 base is actually narrower then the HG-One base & it stands only .75" taller in single dose/hopperless mode. A little more portly for sure. Personally I think the K10 is rather handsome in black, especially with the EP skull & crossbone decal on the side.
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Well, obviously aesthetics are a matter of personal opinion (I do agree, though, that it's better without the hopper), but looking good in a cafe is one thing, and looking good it a home kitchen is another. I think it's difficult to argue that any titan conical commercial grinder "fits", design-wise, in 98% of consumer home kitchens. I like the way Gail puts it in this video http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/compak ... so-grinder : it's "jamambo".Spitz.me wrote:The K10 is NOT ugly and definitely even more NOT ugly without the hopper, IMHO.
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In the last four or five years we've had a pair of Super Jollys, a pair of Majors, a Baratza Vario & now a Bunn G3 on the kitchen counter. Guess which one my wife complained about? The Vario of course & within 2 months it was gone for good. Does a commercial espresso grinder look anymore out of place in a home kitchen then the ever popular commercial fridge or gas stove?
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Sorry, I have to disagree with that sentiment. I have done exactly that and not only am i happier with the HG-One, so is my wife. The reasons are that it is overall quicker to achieve the end result, the cranking is more than offset by the bump & brush required on the K10.sashaman wrote:
More importantly, if you're willing to (and can afford) a big commercial grinder in your home, I wouldn't recommend swapping it out for an HG One.
It looks better and the manual aspect is in harmony with my lever machines.
Mind you, i accept that if I had static issues and required WDT then I might form a different view, but as it stands its my go to grinder in the pack!
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