Orphan Espresso LIDO cupping grinder - Page 20

#191: Post by **tekomino** » March 8th, 2012, 7:10 pm

#8 in da house and it's working perfect for CCD, I am sipping some very clean El Sal Miel I roasted yesterday. 2 turns from zero. I love how I looks and fits in hand. Great job! Adjustment is super easy.

#192: Post by **Sam21** » March 8th, 2012, 7:40 pm

opother wrote:A little bit past 3/4 of a turn from zero produced a pretty fine drip grind, finer than I intended but it was already ground up so I used it.

The coffee was pure Sumatra. I ground about 6 and 1/2 fluid ozs (a little less than the full 8 oz cup) it took about 300 turns and 3 minutes to do, not as fast as the raw power speed of the Pharos but much faster than any of my other hand grinders including the Sozen. It is not slow or fast I would describe it's grinding speed as moderate.

I could actually see the progress of the grinding through the plexiglass and it was very very noticable the beans were steadily vacating (down down down) the almost full grind chamber into the glass jar. Speed is decent on this grinder but it still is not as fast as the Pharos. It is an unfair comparison though since the Pharos is in a whole different class.

I took a thick white chemex filter and cut it to the size of my Technivorm basket and ran an 8 cup drip.

I noticed some sludge but I am comparing it to the grind of the Versalab which may not be fair. The drip ran without overflowing even though a thick chemex filter was used with 6 fluid ozs of finely ground coffee. That tells me the fines are not excessive.

The color of the brew looked a little dark and was not as red as I would like bitterness was there but not overwhelming. I would describe the brew as very strong rather than bitter which was probably due to the fine grind I used. The flavor of the coffee came through regardless and it was good with sugar and milk I really tasted the flavors of the coffee in a connical way if that means anything.

It was NOT kludgy, nasty black dishwater that bad grinding burrs are known to produce but a very decent tasting grind. I am going to loosen up the grind even more which will probably improve things.

I once used an Innova Connical as my espresso grinder for a time (it did produce good sweet tasting espresso) which uses the same burr set (trespade) as the Lido. I recognize the flavors.

3/4 of a turn puts you near the top end of espresso grinds. Try a 1-1.25 for a drip grind. Sounds like you just ended up with a fine grind, but based on the fact that it didn't stall shows promise for a coarser grind.

#193: Post by **opother** » March 8th, 2012, 7:50 pm

I just edited my post and ground at a coarser setting and wow the taste was fantastic. Wet grinds were almost sludge free. I say this because I think it's true Lido is going to make waves, it rocks. I have not tried espresso yet but I am pretty sure it will do quite well if I know my trespade burrs.

OK I will cut and paste round 2 over here so as not to lose track

Round 2

Same as above (previous post) but loosened it up to a little more than 1 1/4 turns. Grind speed seemed a little quicker but not much almost no noticable sludge in the wet coffee grounds which was cosiderably coarser (moderate on the coarse side.) Water flow through the grounds was faster for sure, but not too fast, in fact I thought it was just about right.

I did have to give the grinder a few shakes on about 4 or 5 occaisions. I changed the handle position to middle hole which gave me less shake n bake during grinding so I had to provide some improvised shake n bake at some intervals when the beans stopped feeding.

Ok Ok now to the point coffee was nice and red and tasted great as in wow this is really good. It was much better with the coarser grind. Bitterness was low. I have no doubt after this round of the cupping capabilities of the Lido grinder.

This is the second highly potent hand grinder I have in my grinder arsenal and they are both from OE.
opother

#194: Post by **jbviau** » March 8th, 2012, 9:37 pm

opother wrote:...I changed the handle position to middle hole which gave me less shake n bake during grinding so I had to provide some improvised shake n bake at some intervals when the beans stopped feeding.

Have you been watching "Talladega Nights" recently?

#195: Post by **drgary** » March 8th, 2012, 10:52 pm

yakster wrote:It's getting real up in here now, I don't know if I'll be able to wait my turn in the Traveling Roadshow to try out this grinder. I'm really looking forward to trying this out, especially at work.

Chris,

You can borrow mine for a few days ...

Just let me know.

#196: Post by **Sam21** » March 9th, 2012, 11:42 am

Aeropress this morning:

This morning I set the LIDO for one 1.35 turns (one full rotation and then between 1/4 and 1/2). I set the water to boil and with 20 or so seconds left to go, I started my grind. Being my first "full dose" grind, I wasn't sure what to expect as far as speed. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the LIDO is actually moderately fast at the coarser drip settings. It is MUCH FASTER than the Japanese ceramics.

After pre-heating my aeropress, I dumped my grounds in (18g), and started my pour/timer. My recipe is 230ml of 201 degree water with a 17-19g dose based on the coffee. Inverted, I let it steep for 60 seconds, fixed my filter cap (with Disk), and plunged for 45 seconds. I used a home roasted Kenyan and the cup tasted like sweet tangy blackberry juice. It was delicious.

Grind-wise, I was aiming for a coarse drip grind, and it looked pretty darn close. The extraction in the cup seemed great, although I may try going a touch finer. I was impressed with the speed of the LIDO and how easy and comfortable it is to grind with. Gripping the grinder by its hopper and using a bicycle motion with the long handle worked out very well.

A good start for #025!

#197: Post by **Bak Ta Lo** » March 9th, 2012, 1:23 pm

Sam,

With only a UPS tracking number, waiting on my Lido, your hands-on reviews are making me anxious to get mine!

Do you have a good way to take some step by step photos or video of your Lido use? Sometimes watching someone use a product speaks volumes about the design.

Jeremy

#198: Post by **Sam21** » March 9th, 2012, 1:29 pm

These are the only two pictures that I have of the LIDO so far. I may have some time later today to take a few more pics and will be sure to post them! As I use it a bit more, I am sure I will have more footage/images. I look forward to others receiving theirs!

*SORRY FOR THE SIDEWAYS IMAGES!*

#199: Post by **Bak Ta Lo** » March 9th, 2012, 1:33 pm

Thanks, that was fast! The packaging is nicely done! What is the purpose of the red cap, and the flat oblong dark plastic thing on the counter?

March 9th, 2012, 1:35 pm

The red plastic cap looks to be a protective cover for the threads on the drive shaft. The oblong thingy is a piece of rubber and is used to remove the handle. Simply wrap around the shaft as a cushion for a tight pliers grip, and twist the handle. It helps protect the shaft.