Kafa74 wrote:Wow that looks so easy, you were really flying with it, I was waiting for a lift off:). I counted about 55 turns and it's probably what I would prefer, but it is what it is. I emailed LW and they said my experience (20 turns for 15g of coffee) is what they would consider average. If they offer a different type of burrs in future, I might consider it.

How's it going now? Any easier after the burrs have been seasoned by a few months use? Same number or turns?
I'm considering the current HG-1 but am a little hesistant after seeing how much more difficult it is crank. Seems like a lot more resistance than coated burrs (which I assume LWW don't offer at the moment).

Kafa74 wrote:Just got my new HG-1 (latest 2015/2016 model) and dialed it in. No complains on how it looks or how coffee tastes. I ran through 2 pounds of Minute rice and a pound of coffee. I noticed it grinds approximately 1g per turn but turning is difficult, harder than my Hausgrind for example using same beans. Beans I tried so far are Burundi and Tanzania roasted medium in my Behmor.

I'm assuming it will get easier after a while, but wondering what other people experience was. I'm just shocked it takes so few turns on brand new burrs and it's this difficult to grind. I did a search and a lot of people reported anywhere from 40 to 90 turns on brand new burrs.

It looks like you do NOT have Tin coated burrs.

Also, the folks that compare this to a Pharos are not considering that the Pharos has smaller burrs and the other box style grinders use smaller burrs as well. The HG-1 uses 83mm burrs that normally take a pretty serious motor to turn the burrs from a dead stop.

If you measure the torque required to get the burrs to move with light roasted beans you might find that it takes 110 inch/pounds of torque to move the crank. Darker roasts are easier to crank.

Shoulder surgery forced me to motorize my HG-1.

Suvartet wrote:How's it going now? Any easier after the burrs have been seasoned by a few months use? Same number or turns?
I'm considering the current HG-1 but am a little hesistant after seeing how much more difficult it is crank. Seems like a lot more resistance than coated burrs (which I assume LWW don't offer at the moment).

Since then I went through 8-9 pounds of coffee, 90% for espresso and some for Turkish and brew. Works well for Turkish, brew not so much. Still takes a bit effort to get it going but I got used to it. It didn't get easier and it takes about same number of turns. But because it grinds so fast, it's not an issue at all. Soon after I shot those videos I bought the Able mat and that made a huge difference. Night and day. With Able it's a perfect grinder, you just need a flat surface to stick it.

The grinder makes almost no mess, and I rarely change settings, even when switching between beans.

HG-1 takes awhile to adjust to, but after using it for 4-5 months dayly, I have no regrets for buying it. I highly recommend it.

This wont only depend on the roast profile, varietal, processing or origin and the specific burrs that are installed in the HG....
but will also depend on the strength of the user..

Give this amazing grinder a chance. Lighter roasts will take a bit more effort but not terrible
I have had mine for a year and now I don't think of effort
I love the adjustability, the aroma as the coffee grinds, the minimal residue.

+1

Barb wrote:Give this amazing grinder a chance. Lighter roasts will take a bit more effort but not terrible
I have had mine for a year and now I don't think of effort
I love the adjustability, the aroma as the coffee grinds, the minimal residue.

I think I will. Do you have the titanium coated burrs?

Yes

Suvartet wrote:How's it going now? Any easier after the burrs have been seasoned by a few months use? Same number or turns?
I'm considering the current HG-1 but am a little hesistant after seeing how much more difficult it is crank. Seems like a lot more resistance than coated burrs (which I assume LWW don't offer at the moment).

Maybe this will help. When I was ordering HG-1 with non-coated burrs, I didn't really know what to expect. I was thinking bigger burrs = easier to grind. Before that I had experience with Turkish mill(s) (used it for 15 years), Hario Skerton (2 years) hand grinder, and Housgrind (1 year). If I had to rate them by resistance 1-10, 10 being the hardest, I would put them in this order.

10 - HG-1 with non-coated burrs
6 - Housgrind
5 - Hario Skerton
3 - Turkish mill

Barb wrote:Give this amazing grinder a chance. Lighter roasts will take a bit more effort but not terrible
I have had mine for a year and now I don't think of effort
I love the adjustability, the aroma as the coffee grinds, the minimal residue.

Exactly. I'd also note that technique plays a big part in how hard you are turning. If you apply adequate downward pressure with your left hand and get a good spin going, the flywheel and circular motion will be doing most of the work. If you aren't trained (took me some time!) you just have to reset to 3 oclock and crank.