My doserless Mazzer Major vs. Mahlkonig K30

by **Juanjo** on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:29 pm

well,

don't know if is a fair comparison, since I didn't pull side by side shorts and the K30 is traveling to Cali tomorrow to its new owner..
but it can be a little referendum of how fast a Major can be when using doserless..
both seems to be able to fill a double basket in about 5 seconds.
I'm very proud of how my $100 including shipping Major turn out with this conversion..
here is a little sharing..

*thanks Ilya for the parts

by **jammin** on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:48 pm

wow, my Vario feels very slow now:(

by **hyoungblood** on Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:42 am

How is the retention on the Major? Looks VERY enticing

by **Whale** on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:19 am

jammin wrote:wow, my Vario feels very slow now:(

Look at it this way... You can move around you P/F and evenly distribute the grounds while grinding, while the "fast" guys have to do it after the grind session. I Know, not much of consolation but...

by **Juanjo** on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:33 pm

here is a shot, as you can see static is GONE..
I grounded the back plate and chute straight to the green cable from the plug.. looks like it works.

PS,
this was my first idea for a Major doserless, but it didn't work as I wanted to..still it was fun..

by **Psyd** on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:58 pm

Love you, love your work, really I do, and maybe it's just because I'm a sound engineer, but you really need to turn off the TV and radio before you video these things! :wink:

by **zin1953** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:12 pm

Juanjo wrote:both seems to be able to fill a double basket in about 5 seconds.

Nice, but a couple of observations . . .

First, my Mahlkönig K30 Vario grinds a double in 3.3 seconds, but I suspect it's a lower dose than you're using.

Secondly, it appears to me that more coffee ended up in the basket of the Mahlkönig K30ES (and less in the tray), than with the Major. That is to say, the basket looks "fuller" from the Mahlkönig, and the tray looks like it caught more grinds on the Major.

As always, though, it's what's in the cup that counts, and I have no doubt a) the Major does a superb job, and b) at $100, qualifies as the "Bargain of the Century" ! :wink:

Cheers,
Jason

by **Juanjo** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:28 pm

hey Psyd, thanks for the love..

Jason,
in the first video, the Major wasn't grounded properly, check the second video and you'll see that all the coffee end-up in the basket..

thanks
Juanjo

by **michaelbenis** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:40 pm

Ah.... I love that lever machine of yours!

Nice setup.

Cheers

Mike

by **Psyd** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:02 pm

Juanjo wrote:hey Psyd, thanks for the love..

No sweat. Lemme know when you're ready to trade that awful work-horse of a lever for a semi auto two group that does all the work for you... :wink:

And it is possible that the $75 Rio Major of mine with new burrs, complete with doser, hopper, lids for both, is the deal of the century.
Put it on the counter next to my $100 Astoria Major that had seen less than a year of service, plugged it in, and haven't done anything but grind in it and clean it since.

by **Juanjo** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:12 pm

for me the "deal of the century" was when I got that 'awful work-horse' lever machine delivered to my work bench by the previous owner for $250

.. it make me lough every time I think about it..

PS,
believe it or now was re-listed few times on ebay with no takers.. till I made my offer

by **NickA** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:32 pm

Hi Juanjo, I'm interested in what's behind the cover you've added to your Major. (where the doser was) I wouldn't have thought there was too much space to get the coffee out of the coffee chute from the grind chamger and down to your spout while still being able to put a cover flush with the Major's body.

by **Juanjo** on Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:01 pm

hey Nick,
I'll get you some pictures tomorrow..

by **Psyd** on Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:43 pm

Juanjo wrote:for me the "deal of the century" was when I got that 'awful work-horse' lever machine delivered to my work bench by the previous owner for $250

OK, I'm prepared to double that if you'll pay shipping. You know, for the work that you've put into it. And you still get my semi.

by **Juanjo** on Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:22 am

lol..

sorry man, but I'm not ready to part with the lever.. actually I'm thinking of putting it in my will

by **Koffee Kosmo** on Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:57 am

All I will say is I love my Mazzer Major
I especially like it with the doser now that I have made a doser exit chute modification

I still have plans to try a Mazzer style funnel but for the moment it works a treat for me
KK

by **Psyd** on Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:00 pm

Juanjo wrote:sorry man, but I'm not ready to part with the lever.. actually I'm thinking of putting it in my will

That's so sweet of you! And I hardly know you! How's that lumbago, by the way?

by **oton** on Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:07 pm

Hi Juanjo,

what differences do you find between the K30 and Major in the quality of shots? Thanks

by **Juanjo** on Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:40 pm

Oton,

using fresh coffee both are top grinders..
I would lie if I tell you I can find difference in the coffee test using either..
I like my mod Major more but that's because I put my personal touch to it..

by **oton** on Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:21 am

Interesting.

I asked you because all the comments floating around about the improvements between a conical vs flat burrs... More flavor clarity flavors, later blonding, more crema, thick mouthfeel...


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