Forgive my ignorant cynicism, but . . . (or perhaps I should start off by saying "Random thoughts") . . . .
Clearly no home user really needs
the Pro M or
the K30 ES/Vario -- after all, who among us needs
to grind two double shots per minute (the capacity of a 110v K30) or 150 doubles a day (the recommended maximum for a Pro M). Doesn't stop some of us from wanting/owning them, mind you, but --
I've not seen the "Street Prices" for the K30 Vario that Robert has seen
nik wrote:One of the areas that I would like to point out is the price of $1900 that you have listed for the K30. I have seen "street" prices as low as $1475 and generally in the mid $1500's as fairly common.
But this is one reason why I always quote MSRP or the "list" price . . . I mean most of us know that the Baratza Vario (aka
the Mahlkönig VARIO Home) is $429, but we also know that Chris' Coffee Service is offering a discount. We also know that the price will go up by $20 with the new motherboards. The list price avoids any temporary discounts or sale prices and compares the items in question (in this case, grinders) "head-to-head." If there are discounts, so much the better . . .
FWIW, I have
seen a $1475 price, or thereabouts, for the Mahlkönig K30, but only
from the Mahlkönig USA
website, and only for demo units used at trade fairs, shows, etc. The Mahlkönig USA website shows the list price for a K30 ES as $2,250 and for the K30 Vario as $2,450. However
, under the "Specials" section of their website, they are offering a K30 ES for $1,450 (FOB Belmont, CA), and a K30 Vario for $1,590 (FOB Belmont, CA) -- sales tax and shipping is extra.
But I cannot conceive of the Pro M being for commercial use for ONE reason: the bean hopper only holds 260 grams of beans . . . that's only 18 doubles . . . better be a S-L-O-W establishment. It makes me wonder if the Mahlkönig VARIO Home -- being a Baratza design with Mahlkonig burrs -- made Mahlkönig want to design their OWN grinder for home use . . . but couldn't/didn't want to "step on their own toes," in a sense, and make a grinder that would compete head-to-head, so they "upped" it just enough . . . .
To Sylvain, re: the hopper for the Pro M . . .
I am merely speculating, of course, but I think the space is useless -- one cannot access any beans there (i.e.
: there is no chute into the grinder from the second compartment), and any pre-ground beans would stale quickly and be difficult to access anyway. I think it is just for design -- to match the shape of the hopper to the shape of the grinder itself.