Mahlgut grinder (Kind of Pharos-ish) - Page 10
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We Hope this yearroyi_klein wrote:Looks great, any time estimation for the motorized version?
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Thanks for the update.fotomanufaktur wrote:The next Add-On Prototype is ready. Our Mahlgut Motor Add-On.
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Very Nice Design, groundbreaking product. Reminds me of the iPhone back in its days.Bikeminded wrote:Check out what this crafty German has been up to. Nice looking.
http://mahlgut.eu/mahlgut-mg-1-details/
p.s Price point might be a big high. Hope it comes down with time.
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Yeah, it's odd price, especially in US, too far from pharos, but too close to HG1. If the motorized is less than a grand, then prolly ok. But if more than a grand, then start competing with E37, K30, etc. That doesn't make sense to me either.
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Considering the number of precision machined parts, attention to detail in the design, and all of the polished & anodized finishes, I can see why this falls closer in price to the HG-1 than the Pharos.
For me the Pharos, in stock form, is too quirky to use several times per day, even with the in-cup results. Fully VooDoo'ing one adds significant cost, if the mods are still available. For those reasons, I decided to save up for an HG-1... until the Mahlgut showed up on the radar.
It solved all of my gripes about the Pharos, is portable, can be taken apart without a single tool, and fits better on my counter than the HG-1. The potential for a motor for everyday grinding that can be removed in the blink of an eye for travel is attractive too.
So, while not for everyone, it does fill a small void in the marketplace.
For me the Pharos, in stock form, is too quirky to use several times per day, even with the in-cup results. Fully VooDoo'ing one adds significant cost, if the mods are still available. For those reasons, I decided to save up for an HG-1... until the Mahlgut showed up on the radar.
It solved all of my gripes about the Pharos, is portable, can be taken apart without a single tool, and fits better on my counter than the HG-1. The potential for a motor for everyday grinding that can be removed in the blink of an eye for travel is attractive too.
So, while not for everyone, it does fill a small void in the marketplace.
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It seems to me they made the best pharos they could, but I think most people just want a better pharos that you don't have to shake around and is easier to align. I think anyone who makes a $500 pharos that addresses those two issues, is gonna have a huge hit on their hands. You know, in my expert engineering, manufacturing, and marketing opinon.
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It is certainly a quality grinder by the looks of it but I think its a little early to start making claims about superior build quality and the like, I think it still needs more time in the field to make those sort of statements.
I consider the Pharos portable in that it just barely fits in my Coleman 9 can soft cooler that I use as its travel case.
The Mahlgut is a decent bit bigger judging by the side-by-side pics, It would probably require a 16 can cooler to fit in. So the Mahlgut is portable if you consider a 16 can cooler portable. By that definition my Baratza Vario is also portable.
The motor attachment is pretty cool, yet really all it takes is a $5 socket adaptor and a variable speed drill to motorize either the Mahlgut or the Pharos. And a $25 right angle drill attachment if you want to really get fancy, so I wouldn't consider it a deal maker or breaker.
I've used a drill to motorize the Pharos for house parties, it works out well.
I can certainly see two potential scenarios in which I would buy the Mahlgut: If I find myself in a place in the world where due to customs and shipping and such it is closer in price to the Pharos and cheaper than the HG-1, and if the Mahlgut lands in the US with a $600 or less price tag.
If I can get a Mahlgut to my door for $600 then I'm in.
I consider the Pharos portable in that it just barely fits in my Coleman 9 can soft cooler that I use as its travel case.
The Mahlgut is a decent bit bigger judging by the side-by-side pics, It would probably require a 16 can cooler to fit in. So the Mahlgut is portable if you consider a 16 can cooler portable. By that definition my Baratza Vario is also portable.
The motor attachment is pretty cool, yet really all it takes is a $5 socket adaptor and a variable speed drill to motorize either the Mahlgut or the Pharos. And a $25 right angle drill attachment if you want to really get fancy, so I wouldn't consider it a deal maker or breaker.
I've used a drill to motorize the Pharos for house parties, it works out well.
I can certainly see two potential scenarios in which I would buy the Mahlgut: If I find myself in a place in the world where due to customs and shipping and such it is closer in price to the Pharos and cheaper than the HG-1, and if the Mahlgut lands in the US with a $600 or less price tag.
If I can get a Mahlgut to my door for $600 then I'm in.
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In addition to the precision of the build, consider the fact that the country of manufacture promotes fair labour standards, stable health, social and retirement systems, environmental monitoring, etc. Low price point comes at a cost.Considering the number of precision machined parts, attention to detail in the design, and all of the polished & anodized finishes, I can see why this falls closer in price to the HG-1 than the Pharos.
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Have you tested the prototype with beans yet? Can you post a video of it grinding beans?fotomanufaktur wrote:<snip>
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dominico wrote: <snip>
I consider the Pharos portable in that it just barely fits in my Coleman 9 can soft cooler that I use as its travel case.
The Mahlgut is a decent bit bigger judging by the side-by-side pics, It would probably require a 16 can cooler to fit in. So the Mahlgut is portable if you consider a 16 can cooler portable. By that definition my Baratza Vario is also portable.
FWIW the "6-pack/can" size soft lunchbox size cooler I bought from REI, I was using to haul around and protect my Pharos, fits the Mahlgut Grist MG-1 perfectly: Nothing larger required. The added benefit of the MG-1's easily removable handle keeps it just as compact as the Pharos for mobile use/transport.
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