The lesser known Italian espresso grinder manufacturers
- redbone
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Anyone heard of or try any of these lesser known or little spoken of Italian espresso grinders.
Casadio: http://www.casadio.com/eng/macinadosatori.asp
San Marco: http://www.lasanmarco.it/pages/en/produ ... hp?lang=IT
OBEL: http://www.obel.it/en/prodotti
Another of similar name but appears to be a different company from FIORENZATO M.C. S.r.l. http://www.fiorenzato.it/en/azienda/tradizione/
*edit* Versus Fiorenzato C.S. a.k.a. Fiorenzato Doge http://www.fiorenzatocs.com/en/coffee_g ... .php?cat=2
Casadio: http://www.casadio.com/eng/macinadosatori.asp
San Marco: http://www.lasanmarco.it/pages/en/produ ... hp?lang=IT
OBEL: http://www.obel.it/en/prodotti
Another of similar name but appears to be a different company from FIORENZATO M.C. S.r.l. http://www.fiorenzato.it/en/azienda/tradizione/
*edit* Versus Fiorenzato C.S. a.k.a. Fiorenzato Doge http://www.fiorenzatocs.com/en/coffee_g ... .php?cat=2
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Rob
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Semper discens.
Rob
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La SAN Marco grinders frequently pop up for sale second-hand in the Netherlands. They seem to be popular with people starting out on home espresso. These are usually dosered grinders that were previously used in cafés. Solid big workhorses AFAIK.
Bert
- dominico
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They are a distributor, they sell Fiorenzato and Doge machines and grinders. So same products, one extra middle man.redbone wrote: Another of similar name but appears to be a different company from FIORENZATO M.C. S.r.l. http://www.fiorenzato.it/en/azienda/tradizione/
Called Fiorenzatocs: http://www.fiorenzatocs.com/en/coffee_g ... .php?cat=2
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Il caffè è un piacere, se non è buono che piacere è?
Il caffè è un piacere, se non è buono che piacere è?
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Casadio is the Faema/Cimbali "second brand", and the group grinder manufacturer and rebadger. Obel Bregant grinders are almost all rebadged by other espresso machine suppliers.
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- redbone (original poster)
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Thanks guys. This is great insight.
Between order and chaos there is espresso.
Semper discens.
Rob
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Semper discens.
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Is the Obel Bregant a good grinder? Could have one for 200 Dollars.
- bostonbuzz
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That's "Fiorenzato" C.S., not "Fiorenzatocs."
There are quite a few posts about the doge conico (their robur version) around this site, san maros as well.
There are quite a few posts about the doge conico (their robur version) around this site, san maros as well.
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- russel
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My experience with Obel grinders this that they're the bottom of the light commercial options. I've has a La Pavoni Zip and the really angular one that I think is actual Obel branded. They are OK. The older ones what show up cheep are stepped pretty wide and the dose is plastic-y. Some variations, like the ZIP, have cylindrical exit chutes, which I guess might make sweeping the chute easier and cleaner? At $100-$200 used they are better for espresso than a Baratza Encore for the same price, but there are lots of other light commercial grinders that are much better.coffee-nerd wrote:Is the Obel Bregant a good grinder? Could have one for 200 Dollars.
-OK, that sounds a little harsh and probably undersells their potential...if you can adjust your technique to compensate for the wide steps by letting your dose float within your basket/machine's functional dose range you can get good espresso with one of these. Obviously a darker roast will be more forgiving. I find such grinders take well to the over dosed tight ristretto.
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- russel
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Yes, some Wega grinders are rebadged Compaks, maybe most...
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