Identify hand grinder from Russian flea market

by **caffe1nated** on Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:27 pm

I am in Russia currently and today at the flea market I was surprised to find an old hand grinder for ~$63 (1,700 rubles). I have no idea what type it is (Hario?). Any comments of what it is, how old it is, ways to refurbish it and clean it? Thanks! I can't post a photo now because I'm on my phone(add later), but it says on the front (language?) "Garantirt prima bes (can't make out) uahlwerx". In big letters it says HH. Thanks!

by **caffe1nated** on Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:33 pm

With minimal research I think it is German

by **peacecup** on Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:25 pm

Sounds like "garantied stahlmalwerk", German. $63 US is not particularly cheap for one. I hope it turns out to work well.

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by **peacecup** on Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:27 pm

something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Kaffeemuhle-Geschmie...2564da7ed8

by **caffe1nated** on Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:15 pm

I got pics up!

by **EricBNC** on Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:19 pm

Looks Italian (garantirt prima) on the upper label and German on the bottom writing - could be an older Ha Ha brand mill built in Germany for export to Italy, but I am guessing and do not know for sure.

Mods: this thread would look nice merged into the "Handgrinder Hand Jive" thread.

by **Eastsideloco** on Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:37 am

Ha Ha.

No, I'm not laughing. But I bet Eric is correct. Later mills by this company are branded "Ha Ha" rather than "H H." You'll see these from time to time on eBay, especially eBay Deutschland. (None right now.) Presumably, the letters are abbreviations. Not sure what they stand for. I'd guess it's another German brand.

Beautiful model. circa 1920? Maybe older.

by **caffe1nated** on Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:03 pm

Can you point me to a link where you estimated that or do you know based upon the look compared to other ones of the time?

by **caffe1nated** on Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:39 pm

I don't know if this will help but the man was also selling 2 others that looked like this http://www.shopcountrygifts.com/store/W...p?One=1953

by **Eastsideloco** on Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:41 pm

The latter. I have studied this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Antique-Coffee-Gr...0764313525

It's mostly focused on American mills, but has European entries from the 1700s through the 1900s. (Anyone know of a good book specifically on European hand mills?)

While feet on you HH mill are found on mills from the 1800s, the handle in particular looks more recent.

However, this link suggests it is could be an older mill:

http://vintagecoffeegrinders.com/?p=designs


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