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Postby Eastsideloco on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:47 pm

Here's a HH of a similar vintage to yours (looks like the same label):

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Moulin-a-cafe-ancien...500wt_1156
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Postby caffe1nated on Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:51 pm

hazbean wrote:This piqued my interest because in our modest collection of 20 odd hand grinders there is one HaHa which I have so far neglected to investigate in much detail.

Regarding the flea market grinder, I found another one with a similar but not quite identical mark, see

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/a...-prima-h-h

I think this is earlier than the flea market find.

I also found a very poor example at http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/44243222/r...quot-.html

These all have the "H H" mark. As suggested above, these are likely to be early versions of the HaHa brand.

This name was used by Harhaus of Hagen in Germany, est 1875. Sometimes spelt Hachhaus, as the cursive font on the handle is confusing.

I've attached pictures of part of mine below. It is identified in Ian Bersten's book "Coffee Floats. Tea Sinks" as "Germany, 1950s". The adjustment lever works up to a point, it does a quite good Chemex grind.

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There are some other examples of what seem to be more recent HaHa grinders on ebay, eg

http://tinyurl.com/3j7bvyp and http://tinyurl.com/3jyv7dn

Would be interesting to find a stronger link between "H H" and HaHa ...

That says 1875 and its label is "HaHa", do you think mine is made before 1875 because the common knowledge here is that the company used "HH" before "HaHa"?
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Postby caffe1nated on Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:59 pm

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Postby Eastsideloco on Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:33 pm

I would assume that if the company was established in 1875, then your mill was built after 1875. :P
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Postby caffe1nated on Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:00 pm

Haha! (or HH) I was thinking(incorrectly) that meant that the grinder was made then!
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Postby EricBNC on Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:30 am

I do not think the grinder is as old as one from 1875 - the adjustment is not on top and the entire dome is not above the wooden base - most mills from the late 1800's will have these features. A half dome and internal adjustment (OP can confirm this) are later design features.

Notice too that it does not sat Garantiert but instead the first word is Garantirt - "irt" instead of "iert" at the end. I wonder if in some country outside of Germany this is the way it is spelled?
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