I was a bit quiet recently - egoistically kept my eyes on a PeDe which was poorly labelled on ebay>>> Aber jetzt bin ich hier




While at the same time Zasses and Dienes grinders of comparable condition went above 90$ (dont forget the euro is expensive at the moment) this Dienes remained almost undiscovered and I got the bid at 18$. the burrs are forged.

Many thanks, espressme, fullsack, peacecup and many others - it were your posts encouraging me to give it a try. i know there is a chance it might be faulty, but it looks promising... i ll let you know.

just shortly before i tried my luck on that turkish and was the only bidder - 3$

Well, that's a lovely Dienes, I've always liked the laminated wood highlights. They're not cheap anymore, and for good reason. Not only are they very beautiful, but all of the Dienes' I've tired have been good. But, the proof will be, as they say, in the pudding, so we'll look forward to hearing how it works.

PC

A brief note on this week's espressi Brazil Organic Fazenda Jacaranda. First of all it seems to be one of the best Brazil SO's of all. It has enough balance to make it complete by itself.

Three shots tonight. First two were from the Fiorenzato Doge. The second was extremely good once I got the fineness of grind and tamp set. The third was from the DeVe which I lucked out in guessing the grind setting. The pull was in the right time frame. It was also a wonderful cup. But it was so different from the electric flat burr grind. Again the big 63 mm flat burrs seemed to produce more separation of flavors and the conical burrs of the manual gave a more integrated taste. Both seem to have great potential for close inspection of variations. Each should take you to a different place. If you want to get to a single destination coosee either and follow.

KS

ogatasan wrote:I was a bit quiet recently - egoistically kept my eyes on a PeDe which was poorly labelled on ebay>>> Aber jetzt bin ich hier

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While at the same time Zasses and Dienes grinders of comparable condition went above 90$ (dont forget the euro is expensive at the moment) this PeDe remained almost undiscovered and I got the bid at 18$. the burrs are forged.

Many thanks, espressme, fullsack, peacecup and many others - it were your posts encouraging me to give it a try. i know there is a chance it might be faulty, but it looks promising... i ll let you know.

just shortly before i tried my luck on that turkish and was the only bidder - 3$

Congratulations! I just got the exact same Dienes Grinder- I mean spot on! Model 543- mine has ablack knob on the drawer and a natural color knob on the crank but ... truly sisters! It is tiny! I do really like the metal grounds drawer I have disassembed it, cleaning and touching it up with some new clear coat and stain etc. I will post some photos soon. Nicely machines burrs with the Peacecup predicted 6 pointed star on the top burr. Burrs were in lovely condition. This is the first grinder I have had the rear horixontal adjustment mechanism.

Way to go Ogatasan! The brass job looks nice as well! I can't wait to see if it grinds well- still a couple odays away yet

Jack, that Tight-Hand grinder review is coming and I think it should be a group effort. You, Prof Stack, Fullsack, Ogatasan and others if so inclined. Karl is our "color" commentator ;>) Also Jack , or others, be thinking up an agenda to follow and on a predtermined task list / score card so we don;t wander around helter- skelter .... I am fresh out of a scanning electron microscope... so don't ask!

mogogear wrote:Congratulations! I just got the exact same Dienes Grinder

Greg, am looking forward to your experience and results as I wait for the delivery. Did you already use it? There seems to be hardly any information about the history of Dienes. Obviously Peter Dienes (PeDe) had his plant in Remscheid, Germany but also one in Breukelen, Holland where they mainly made porcelain wall grinders. Dienes now is a manufacturer of precision tools with plants in Germany and the US.

mogogear wrote:Jack, that Tight-Hand grinder review is coming and I think it should be a group effort. You, Prof Stack, Fullsack, Ogatasan and others if so inclined. Karl is our "color" commentator ;>)

Honestly, i'd be happy to participate, but lets be realistic - I've been using preground so far, and have no whatsoever experience with beans, local roasters....

Later this year, once i am in London ill try to get in touch with roasters, and I know there is a scene in Amsterdam, but at that time I already planned to move back to Innsbruck - wonder what the proximity to Italy means in this context.

Ok, here is just a taste of the relative size of the New Dienes model 543 is compared to a Lehnartz knee mill ( no model - just clover stamps under ) and a De Ve ( no model- copper top )



a aerial view of the burrs( sorry my Good digital is still AOL)





the rear mounted burr adjustment



Sittin; close by... BYE




And I stand corrected in my comparison of the two 543 Dienes models - Mine is not near as pristine as Oga's looks! My inlays are not near as distinct.

Greg,

That's a nice collection! The DeVe really cleaned up beautifully - have you tried it? The one I sent to KS was capable of a very fine grind.

PC

BTW,

I've never seen the workings of the back-adjusted Dienes - it would be worth posting on that at some future date.

PC

Hello

I have a Tre Spade hand grinder which I too love using, but like you I am frustrated that it doesn't grind quite fine enough for perfect espresso

It does a pretty good job - a thin crema and strong shot, syrupy if there is alot of robusta in the mix. I use a Presso which has an advantage over the electric pump machine as you can slow the pull a bit if it is coming too fast.

The other fear with the Trespade is the wear of the brass bush. It was an expensive device and the more wear the less even the grind over time I fear. Why did they build such a device with such a fantastic quality machined burr and then skimp on the bearings I will never know? I guess most Italians use stovetops which work better with a coarser grind than a machine.

To rectify the situation I have ordered some small ball bearings and a sleeve to modify the top bearing and get rid of the wobble and wear factor.

I haven't got the parts yet. I promise to post a photo essay to share my experiences.

A warm G'day to all hand grinder enthusiasts.

Welcome to you Al- come aboard!