Greg, aren't those grinders made by Peter Deines - aka Pe De?

I sold most of the hand grinders and recently added a couple. Fun to fix 'em and use for a while and then sell them to try to find a better one. When I find the perfect grinder I'll stop.

You want a Trosser to put into the competition? You can borrow the one on the left in the above pix and then send it back or buy it for big bucks if it wins.

Wednesday at the coffee shop is fine. I don't do much alcohol at all these days. The body and mind thank me for that. It will be fun to talk with you and Hal again, and maybe Jim. I'll PM you.

prof_stack wrote:Greg, aren't those grinders made by Peter Deines - aka Pe De?

I assumed the same but Pe Ve and Pe De...... you and Jack are much better scholars on this than I - I might borrow a Trosser from you to throw into the mix when the Tight Hand deal gets going...... I can discuss it with you when we chat...The project would still be a ways off yet-- 3 weeks or so..

peacecup wrote:Doug, I hope you'll post a few details and photos of your hand grinders here when you can.

The collection, (work horses and show horses):



Didn't realize there were so many until I gathered them all together.

mogogear wrote:Where are you Doug?

I'm still in S.F. My house had become a construction war zone. I had to get out.

Now that looks like the kind of collection, along with your different lever machines, that could really provide some insight into how these grinders work. We'll be looking forward to hearing about some of the differences - one thing I have heard is that the adjustment wheel on the top axle tends to change adjustment during grinding - have you noticed this on any?

I see you have one of the Dienes carved box mills - is that the one with the bakelite drawer that you recently bid on - mine has a plastic drawer, all of which seem to warp after time and don't fit well.

Sometime it may be worth taking side-by-side photos of some of the burrs if there are big differences.

Thanks for posting!

PC

Whats the diference between PeDe and Pe Ve---- other than letters?

Doug, i am impressed by your collection.

as i am about to move country for the 5th time in 5 years i wonder if i should invest in a decent handgrinder rather than a Mazzer Mini, Super Jolly or a Maccap...

- can you or other members say something about the quality and usability of the zass mocca grinder (topleft) ?
- would you have a recommendation for a specific handgrinder (to go with the Europiccola)?
- can they keep up with a decent electric grinder in your experience? (yes, I have read the titan and other reviews)

Thanks so much,

Doug and Jack will both chime in herefast!- but until then......
ogatasan, your signature line tells us you may be the perfect candidate for a hand mill- If you really like it "pure and simple"- the hand mill is the "the cats meow!" A La Pavoni Europiccola can barely do 2 shots in a row without really over heating-and most people don't own them to serve large parties so you would only grind 2 doses in a hand mill- thats about 2 minutes of total grinding with most mills! A minute or LESS for each shot- Piece of cake..

Ok Doug - take it from here...........................

FWW
I found that going to a hand grinder at my age does give a few interesting advantages:
1. loosens the cervical and thoracic vertebrae
2. develops shoulder, arm and pectoral muscles
3. relaxes the overtaxed hearing system!
4. makes me pay attention to the hear / here and now.

Sufficient to say; I like them!
Cheers
richard

mogogear wrote: the hand mill is the "the cats meow!"

...oh that hit me in the heart,
grinder, cat, whatelse - all purr in my arms

espressme wrote:FWW
I found that going to a hand grinder at my age does give a few interesting advantages:
1. loosens the cervical and thoracic vertebrae
2. develops shoulder, arm and pectoral muscles
3. relaxes the overtaxed hearing system!
4. makes me pay attention to the hear / here and now.

Sufficient to say; I like them!
Cheers
richard

Or Richard...... Thank you for the ZEN aspect of the "Tao of the bean" ............... "Chi- I shoulda' thought of that" Me just focusing on practicality and cost / benefit again.....