misterdoggy wrote:I have no idea why the difference, but I am 20 notches over from their marked point. I will call the esw who sold me the machine, maybe they can explain it.

There are a few things that could explain a lot of this. Coffee origin, roast, and local humidity being three. I've had the same dose of two different coffees in my kitchen be ten or twelve notches apart. Same age from roast give or take, same machine, same grinder, same technique. It isn't outside the realm of possibilities that with different machines, different techniques, different coffees of different ages from different roasters in different countries would be remarkably different on different grinders from the same manufacturer?
OTOH, I have two Mazzer Majors. One gets me espresso somewhere around here:



And the other one gets me espresso somewhere around here:



Yes, that is a six under that white tape. And you can see the factory suggestion sticker somewhere on the dark side around back. I've asked about the possibility of the manufacturing changes in burrs and such, and have come up with no explanation. I've changed the burrs between the two, and they both retain their settings. I've tried mixing and matching the upper carriers, and the adjustment collars and there is no change their either, which leaves just the assembly of the bases and motors. Since one is a Mazzer re-branded as an Astoria, and the wacko one is a Rio re-brand, and there are other,very subtle differences between the two, I'm not sure if one is 'broken'* or not.

*It grinds espresso very nicely, thank you very much, and seems to be faster than the other one, even though they share the workload fairly evenly, and have the same amount of use on the burrs. If anything, this one has seen more action. Depends on your definition of 'broken', I guess.

Well mine is closer than that so I shouldn't feel too bad

I spoke with Frank at ESW in Holland who is the technical guy and he looked at the Kony he had in his showroom which has been used a few times.

His Kony had the "Start Here" sticker at "0" but was grinding coffee at 2+

So if his virtual "0" is 5 he is also 7+ numbers (70 notches) away from 0 and 20 + notches coarser from start here.

I wonder what the burrs, or change in burrs or threads might have taken place between Randy's Kony and the new ones, if any.

Certainly is a puzzlement why Randy's is 33 notches from zero and both new Konys here in Europe are 70+ notches from zero.

European machine different from American Machine maybe

i have 2 mazzer mini e grinders, both purchased from chris coffee, about 6 months apart. one grinder is generally set within the parameters of the factory sticker or a notch outside; the other grinder generally has to be set outside the band of the sticker to get a good pour; i think there is an approprimate 5-6 notch difference between the two grinders to get the same pour times; because the two grinders are at different locations, i have never had the opportunity to do a side by side comparison

plan on purchasing a kony e this fall and am sure the settings will be different from those posted

how do you find the zero point on a mazzer

michael wrote:how do you find the zero point on a mazzer

From the FAQ: How to find a grinder's true zero point.