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Changing grind on Mazzer Super Jolly

Postby PKR on Sun May 18, 2008 11:06 pm

I am considering buying a Mazzer Super Jolly for home use: espresso and drip coffee. How difficult (or easy) is it to change back and forth between grind settings?

Also, does anyone know if the Mini "short" bean hopper will fit the SJ?

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Postby HB on Sun May 18, 2008 11:13 pm

It takes a firm two-handed grip, but otherwise it's easy to switch back and forth. The main drawback is losing the precise espresso grind setting and having to sweep the old grounds out. Personally I would invest in a second grinder, e.g., a Solis Maestro or manual coffee grinder for drip. As for your second question, yes, it will fit. See Will a Mazzer Mini Short Hopper work on the Super Jolly? for photos.
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Postby PKR on Sun May 18, 2008 11:30 pm

I'm sure I will eventually go for a 2nd grinder for drip, after my blood pressure gets back to normal from the SJ purchase.

As for the short hopper, as you know there is a newer "shorter" hopper for the Mini now. The link you provided showed the older, taller short hopper on the SJ. Whole Latte's webpage for the shorter hopper (http://www.wholelattelove.com/Maz...r_shorthopper.cfm#) does not mention the SJ for compatibility. I assume it must fit, but would like to be sure before ordering.

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Postby HB on Sun May 18, 2008 11:38 pm

The one you link on WholeLatteLove is the shorter version of the Mazzer hopper that came out several years ago. I have the standard and short versions and they fit the Super Jolly. If you want a shorter short hopper, then modify the tall (standard) hopper. With the modified version, the Super Jolly will just clear my cabinets. It doesn't clear with the so-called short hopper.
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Postby RapidCoffee on Mon May 19, 2008 8:49 am

HB wrote:It takes a firm two-handed grip, but otherwise it's easy to switch back and forth. The main drawback is losing the precise espresso grind setting and having to sweep the old grounds out. Personally I would invest in a second grinder, e.g., a Solis Maestro or manual coffee grinder for drip.

Agreed. I'm down to just one grinder at home (how did that happen? :roll:), and plan to get another for the rare occasions when I make non-espresso brew. Suggestions (in addition to the Solis Maestro) are welcome.

In my experience, the SJ is remarkably stable in terms of grind settings. Even after removal of the upper burr assembly for cleaning, it's back within one little notch of the previous grind upon reassembly. But I don't typically use the same beans for espresso and non-espresso brew. At 30#, the SJ is heavy enough to make emptying out residual beans in the hopper and grinder throat a real PITA.

BTW, it's fairly easy to cobble together your own mini-hopper that holds enough beans for a few shots. I've been using a really attractive setup made of PVC pipe. :lol:
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Postby IMAWriter on Mon May 19, 2008 7:04 pm

HB wrote:The one you link on WholeLatteLove is the shorter version of the Mazzer hopper that came out several years ago. I have the standard and short versions and they fit the Super Jolly. If you want a shorter short hopper, then modify the tall (standard) hopper. With the modified version, the Super Jolly will just clear my cabinets. It doesn't clear with the so-called short hopper.

As I sadly discovered. :cry: Looks good, though, and has the the bean stopper/slider. I believe the ultra short one doesn't.
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Postby PKR on Mon May 19, 2008 7:41 pm

I just got my Super Jolly and it's great! I got a good deal on one that has only been used a handful of times.
What sold me was the fact that I believe it is quieter and faster than the mini or the macap. It also seems to have excellent resale value. It's a real pleasure, and changing the grind setting is pretty easy.

Once I get the short hopper I ordered today, I'll be in great shape. Although, after the dust settles, I think I'll consider one of the DL modifications that's out there. The chute is pretty hard to get to with the doser.

BTW, does anyone know how to change to amount that the doser dispenses?
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Postby HB on Mon May 19, 2008 7:49 pm

PKR wrote:The chute is pretty hard to get to with the doser.

If you remove the finger guard, it's easy to sweep with a brush. I use these acid brushes, available at any paint or hardware store:

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PKR wrote:BTW, does anyone know how to change to amount that the doser dispenses?

Unless you grind half a doser's worth, you don't. The "wedge" must have enough coffee above it to fill properly. If you want to try it, just loosen the set screw atop the big knurled knob. Turning the knob raises/lowers the star-shaped upper vane, changing the effective height of each wedge.
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Postby IMAWriter on Mon May 19, 2008 8:58 pm

HB wrote:Unless you grind half a doser's worth, you don't. The "wedge" must have enough coffee above it to fill properly. If you want to try it, just loosen the set screw atop the big knurled knob. Turning the knob raises/lowers the star-shaped upper vane, changing the effective height of each wedge.

Dan...I assume you're referring to the silver multisided nut that tightens the screw?
When I loosen it, it causes the silver piece that covers the vanes to come out of the little groove that holds it in place. The only thing I dislike about the SJ is that doser set-up. The sweeper extensions help.
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Postby IMAWriter on Mon May 19, 2008 9:02 pm

PKR wrote:I just got my Super Jolly and it's great! I got a good deal on one that has only been used a handful of times.
What sold me was the fact that I believe it is quieter and faster than the mini or the macap. It also seems to have excellent resale value. It's a real pleasure, and changing the grind setting is pretty easy.

Once I get the short hopper I ordered today, I'll be in great shape. Although, after the dust settles, I think I'll consider one of the DL modifications that's out there. The chute is pretty hard to get to with the doser.

BTW, does anyone know how to change to amount that the doser dispenses?

This is slightly OT, but have you done the doser 'sweeper" mod yet? To clear all the grind from the doser while "click-clacking" the doser lever, you need to add extensions to each doser vane. I used the rubber side of some velcro strips. Just cut them, and stick on to each vane so that they just touch the bottom of each sweeper vane. Some folks just use electrical tape, but the rubber/nubby velcro resists grounds sticking. They will remain in place forever, if you allow them to adhere overnight before usage. i changed mine out after 2 years, just for hygiene.
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