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Postby dialydose on Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:33 pm

I will second (or third) the statements about usiung a funnel or yogurt cup if you want a perfectly clean dose, but then again very few if any grinders produce a perfect dose.

One issue I have noticed recently with my Vario is trying to change one micro click when a macro click is involved. That is, my espresso range runs through a macro click so if I am going from two down on the macro and all the way up on micro to one down on macro and all the down on the micro, I seem to have issues. Generally what happens is that is seems a little course. I am curious if others have had this issue. To note, my procuedure is to run the grinder move the micro all the way down the bottom and then move the macro up one click. After a few shots it seems like I am back in business but the first shot always seems fast after the change. Should I try moving the macro first, then the micro. Any suggestions?
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Postby IMAWriter on Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:44 pm

Funny, perhaps it's because I roast most of what I drink, but my blends, even with some fairly different components in each blend all sem to stay within about 10 Micro clicks one way or the other.
Of course, every grinder's initial setup will determine this. Also, the tamp firmness is another determining factor. (I'm of the lighter tamp school, as I use a manual lever) THUS, I utilize a finer grind.

For instance, my Macro is set 1 click down from the top, my Micro 3-4 up from the bottom. Usually, I just move the Micro up several clicks to tighten. Rarely have I had to lower the Macro.

I've not yet heard of such variance of grind. Even on my SJ, switching from my blend, to say belle espresso was only a slight adjustment.
As I understand it, an entire move up/down of the Micro is equal to one Macro click.
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Postby dialydose on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 pm

Robert,

Perhaps I wasn't as eloquent in my question as I should have been. I too am generally within a few clicks for any blend and certainly within 10 overall, it is just that sometimes that three or four clicks on the micro means I have to move the macro up a notch (or down). I am thinking of calibrating it a touch so that my range is all within one macro notch. Just concerned that may be difficult to make such a small adjustment.

Overall I love this grinder. The longer I own it, the more I love it. There is certainly a "feel" factor that comes with use in terms of being in touch with the settings and the timer (if you use it). I am hoping that just continues on for some time.
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Postby IMAWriter on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:26 pm

Gotcha.
Where (normally for espresso ) is your macro Slider set?
That will give me a clue as to why you're having problems.
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Postby dialydose on Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:46 pm

I am pretty much always two notches down from the top on the macro and near the top on the micro (2-3 nothces down). Where I run into issues is if I want to make the grind finer for say age of beans, I might need 4 clicks finer on the micro. This requires that I actually go one click finer on the macro, and then to the bottom for the micro. I have plenty of room to go finer, say 50 clicks on the micro. But often when I make the move all the way to the bottom with micro and the one click finer on macro, it takes 2-3 shots to get it right. I tend to make adjustments in dose and tamp to avoid having to make the move, but would prefer to not have to compensate.

I think I am just going to adjust my routine next time and move the macro first, and then the micro and see if that helps. It is not a huge deal, just a little issue I have noticed.
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Postby dialydose on Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:00 pm

Update: I spoke with the fine folks at Baratza (I love their customer service.) They indicated that in fact while one click of the macro is "about" one range of the micro, the micro is in fact a little more broad than one click. So when I moved all the way down, it likely was a little coarser. This makes perfect sense in terms of my issue.
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Postby BrianG on Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:57 pm

I'm now 2 weeks into my Vario ownership and I've probably run about 2 lbs through it. I'm dialed in on my grind setting and the bottomless extractions are flowing very evenly which is great. The main thing bugging me at this point is the static.

At first I thought the over-spray problem was due to the velocity of the grinds flying out but I'm pretty sure it's the static. When the basket starts to get full the coffee seems to repel away from itself. Also, my coarse grinding into the bin for press/drip always coats the bottom third with clingy fines.

Is it going to get better the more I use it?

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Postby dialydose on Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:19 am

Brian -

My static has gotten better, but it is not gone. I have had mine now for a few months. It really is a function of the bean for me now. Darker roasts tends to have more static (in general) and will cause more stray grounds. Many people have had success with a yogurt cup or the funnel from orphan espresso. I have tried it with the yogurt cup and it works really well. I think you will find that static is a common issue among vario grinder owners. I think you will also find that by and large we don't mind given the quality in the cup.
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Postby ziemas on Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:02 pm

I've got the updated European version and it doesn't have any static issues. They grounded the PF holder hook.

http://www.mahlkoenig.de/en_products/VARIO-home.html
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Postby nixter on Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:02 pm

I wish it could hold a bottomless PF. Grinding into the bucket and pouring into the PF is pretty easy mind you.
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