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Postby nixter on Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:56 pm

orwa wrote:Thank you for sharing, a great grinder for a great price. Good that the little ones from the east are helping the prices down. $300 is really an awesome price for such a grinder, given that some of the KitchenAid ProLines have been sold for such a price, and that the way inferior Nuova Simonelli Grinta is sold for a slightly higher price (can you believe it? the Grinta is a joke, though a serious joke when compared to the ProLine, which in turn is a silly joke).

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The Grinta!! Much better in photos than in reality... This is a cheap toy!
(this is the batteries model)


What's so wrong with the grinta? It has very good specs I thought. Large burrs, etc. I own one and I'm quite happy with it. The being said it's the only thing I've ever used so if other grinders are that much superior I'd love to hear from some people who have actually used this and other grinders side by side in equal scenarios.
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Postby IMAWriter on Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:34 am

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I'm liking the design a lot. It's taking me some time to get used to a doser! In spite of that the espresso is flowing well. Much longer shots... blonding takes place much more gradually then I'd become accustomed to. I need more time before I can express how they shots taste differently... all I know now is that the are gooder...;)

Henry

Henry...wait till those burrs really break in. I think it takes a few #'s. Man, those burrs look a lot like my former Mazzer SJ's. Can't compare, of course.
Best of luck with her.
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Postby IMAWriter on Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:45 am

Henry, I meant to ask,when you thwack the doser handle, does the doser throw the grinds to the left, as does the Mazzer SJ ???(and Mini as well, I believe)
I used a "Schectermatic Schnozzola", an innovation created by the great Andy Schector (sp).
I couldn't copy the link from search. My bad
maybe Dan can, or Andy himself if he's around.
It Pretty much keeps the grind confined to the PF basket. The thread is a great read as well.
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Postby IMAWriter on Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:48 am

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Postby JohnB. on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:17 am

Has anyone done a side by side comparison with the SJ to see how the HC-600 fares as far as grinding & build quality goes? I see 1st Line is selling the timer version of the Laranzato for around $500.
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Postby hbuchtel on Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:42 am

Hi Rob, sorry I missed your questions. Yes, the HC-600 throws grinds to the left. Making a Schnozzola was one of the first things I did! Essential, in my opinion.

JohnB, I'm not fortunate enough to be able to compare this machine and a SJ, but I recall reading about some folks at a cafe who were trying out the HC-600 for a while... I'll try to look that up. I don't think they ever published their results, but maybe with some encouragement...

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Postby Yeti on Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:34 pm

Any more news/feedback on the "Chinese Mazzers" ?
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Postby IMAWriter on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:54 pm

hbuchtel wrote:Hi Rob, sorry I missed your questions. Yes, the HC-600 throws grinds to the left. Making a Schnozzola was one of the first things I did! Essential, in my opinion.

JohnB, I'm not fortunate enough to be able to compare this machine and a SJ, but I recall reading about some folks at a cafe who were trying out the HC-600 for a while... I'll try to look that up. I don't think they ever published their results, but maybe with some encouragement...

Regards, Henry

Henry, Espresso parts NW has "adapted" our great friend Andy Schector's "schnozzola", in plastic, and is available at EPNW. I think right now it's a Robur fit, but I'd guess an SJ version is not far behind.
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Postby LordFoo on Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:35 am

IMAWriter wrote:Henry, Espresso parts NW has "adapted" our great friend Andy Schector's "schnozzola", in plastic, and is available at EPNW. I think right now it's a Robur fit, but I'd guess an SJ version is not far behind.


Michael Elvin from EPNW posted the template for this on his blog (http://bigeyelaboratory.com/) in December -- it's a more permanent install than Andy's "schnozzola", which may be good or bad depending on how much abuse it takes. It does work with all Mazzer dosers AFAIK, as the bottom plate mount is identical.

I made one for my Mini using the PDF template (http://bigeyelaboratory.com/2008/05/08/here-it-is-robur-dosing-mod/) -- the first time, I used a piece of plastic from a shirt collar insert, which turned out to be too brittle + broke within a few weeks. Recently, I tried cutting one from sheet aluminum -- it's working great so far, but I've had to watch out for sharp edges! :shock:

There are great install pictures accompanying the post (http://www.flickr.com/photos/elvin/sets/72157605144154794/), which is also linked from EPNW for those buying the part directly from them. Michael, if you're reading this, thanks for providing this great resource to the community!
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Postby IMAWriter on Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:54 pm

Considering the time and labor involved, seems like $10 plus a little shipping might be the ticket.
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