La Pavoni ZIP grinder vs. Mazzer
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I got a good deal on this grinder at a local estate sale:
It out performs my Rocky to the point where I haven't used the Rocky in weeks. I haven't read much about this La Pavoni grinder. How comparable is it to a Mazzer Super Jolly? Reason I ask is because i'm pondering selling both and getting a Mazzer. But if this Pavoni grinder is comparable I may just marry it to my Silvia. It is grinding very well at the moment.
It out performs my Rocky to the point where I haven't used the Rocky in weeks. I haven't read much about this La Pavoni grinder. How comparable is it to a Mazzer Super Jolly? Reason I ask is because i'm pondering selling both and getting a Mazzer. But if this Pavoni grinder is comparable I may just marry it to my Silvia. It is grinding very well at the moment.
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http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1229169404/4
According to those people its an Obel Bregant EB. Which is numerously rebranded.
Here's an exploded view:
http://www.horeca-parts.nl/Koffiemolens ... egant.html
If one's motto is "bigger burrs are better" then yes, the Zip is better than a Mazzer.
@RapidCoffee, stupid me, I thought I read 64.5mm burrs. Anyway, I don't know which one is better.
According to those people its an Obel Bregant EB. Which is numerously rebranded.
Here's an exploded view:
http://www.horeca-parts.nl/Koffiemolens ... egant.html
If one's motto is "bigger burrs are better" then yes, the Zip is better than a Mazzer.
@RapidCoffee, stupid me, I thought I read 64.5mm burrs. Anyway, I don't know which one is better.
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Huh? This depends on the Mazzer model. Super Jolly burrs are 64mm, Pavoni Zip (according to Internet info) are 63.5mm.Bluecold wrote:If one's motto is "bigger burrs are better" then yes, the Zip is better than a Mazzer.
I'm guessing these are fairly comparable grinders, in terms of grind quality. Build quality? Usability? No idea.
John
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Thanks for your comments. The 2nd poster has me totally confused as I did not know these models get re-branded. Anyway this Zip grinder seems to grind alot finer than my Rocky. The ease in which it grinds makes me think it will last a lifetime (with Burr replacements ofcourse). Maybe I will just keep both and use the Rocky for FP and drip.
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If you like the grinder ergonomics, keeping it is the thing to do. If you like the one you have, and you drink drip/french press, you'll be a lot happier with 2 dedicated grinders than you would with slightly better (if even that--I would bet indistinguishable) espresso from a Mazzer Super Jolly. Mazzers are great grinders (IMO the best--I've had four!), but changing grind from espresso to drip/french press is NOT something they are good at.
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Did I confuse anyone?
I'll try to give a summary:
-The Pavoni Zip is a beefy commercial grinder
-The Pavoni Zip is actually an Obel Bregant EB rebrand
Here is another thread about your Pavoni Zip aka. Bregant EB:
Bregant grinder on eBay .. good deal for someone?
I'll try to give a summary:
-The Pavoni Zip is a beefy commercial grinder
-The Pavoni Zip is actually an Obel Bregant EB rebrand
Here is another thread about your Pavoni Zip aka. Bregant EB:
Bregant grinder on eBay .. good deal for someone?
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Good quality on both
obel if you care comes with the built-in spring loaded push down tamper which can be useful or useless depend on you
obel if you care comes with the built-in spring loaded push down tamper which can be useful or useless depend on you
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- onegirlcreative
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There is one on eBay that I'm watching, and it looks like a really good grinder, but it's used. I wasn't sure the level of this, is it comparable to a Mazzer Super Jolly or Mini?
I currently have the Gaggia MDF burr grinder, so I imagine it's better than that one, but need to upgrade soon because I think mine is going on the fritz soon.
Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks. Suzanne
I currently have the Gaggia MDF burr grinder, so I imagine it's better than that one, but need to upgrade soon because I think mine is going on the fritz soon.
Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks. Suzanne
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I believe the La Pavoni Zip grinder is a rebadged Obel Bregant EB grinder. Places that sell replacement burrs sell the same ones for both the La Pavoni and Obel Bregant grinders. I have not used this model, but I've got the Obel Bregant DSQ grinder and I think it works really well. I don't have any experience with any Mazzers, so I'll let others comment on that.