La Pavoni Europiccola vs. Pro

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Ardijan
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#1: Post by Ardijan »

Hello everyone.

Initially I was thinking about buying something between a La pavoni Europiccola or a Puccino. But now I decide to have a lever machine.

However I need to know if the price difference for a Pro is worth?! I can have a La Pavoni Europiccola for 379$ and a Pro for 529$, 150$ of difference!

Which one can allow me occasionally to have 4 cups of espresso in a row? (2 cups a Time)

And which one allow best froth for the milk, for 1 or two cappuccino a Time ?

Thank you :)

HoldTheOnions
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#2: Post by HoldTheOnions »

I would get the larger boiler. Anyway you use it, you will have to fill it less often.

day
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#3: Post by day »

A proper pressure gauge and adapter will run you around 75 and be necessary really. It also won't look as good. So really I would say it is 75 dollars for a larger boiler....up to you on that point. If it's not a big deal I say it is worth it. Both of them will be sufficient for your needs, but the 8 does run out pretty fast, but is fast to refill.
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#4: Post by forbeskm replying to day »

On the plus side of the smaller boiler, it heats up faster. I am not a pressure gauge fan unless it has a pressurestat then I would make sure to get one. You can cool down a non professional fast and refill with a kettle for quicker turnup. You'll be fine either route.

Ardijan (original poster)
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#5: Post by Ardijan (original poster) replying to forbeskm »

Can I have 4 Espresso with a Europiccola? How much I have to wait for cool down?

In the end, the steam is the same or with a Professional I can have more power for best microfoam??

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#6: Post by jwCrema »

forbeskm wrote:On the plus side of the smaller boiler, it heats up faster. I am not a pressure gauge fan unless it has a pressurestat then I would make sure to get one. You can cool down a non professional fast and refill with a kettle for quicker turnup. You'll be fine either route.
I had a Pro, and bought it thinking it would be able to handle the occasional crowd I get. It says it's a Pro model. But I discovered it really wasn't up to doing a crowd without a serious amount of technique to keep the head temp in range AND reload with more water AND still be able to have a conversation with everyone. I'm sure Dr Gary could host a crowd of 30 with a LP Pro with everyone getting their drinks with Charbucks cadence, but I couldn't.

What I actually did with it 99% of the time was to pull drinks for the wife and I. The Europiccola would have been a better fit for us and that mission.

Ardijan (original poster)
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#7: Post by Ardijan (original poster) »

I Need to know if the water in the Europiccola is enough for doing 4 espresso in a session (I Imagine that I need to pull the lever twice to have 2 espresso a time) and sometimes milk frothing too?
Is the pressure gauge really helpful?

Thank you all :)

forbeskm
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#8: Post by forbeskm replying to Ardijan »

The pressure gauge is helpful if you have a pressurestat based machine otherwise I'd say no as the spring on the pressure relief is not really adjustable without shims that you can find on the ultimate thread. I have used the la pavoni's for years without a gauge.

I do two lattes , espresso and milk steaming from my 74, bottomless portafilter , elektra basket from stefanos and 17grams, giving roughly 38-40gram shot, I pull the lever only once. Then steam, does that fine, if I want a third I usually cool quick and refill. If I was just pulling shots and not steaming, three shots would be fine with single pull. Lots of threads on here covering flavor of second pull and weight of shots.

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#9: Post by drgary »

If you are at all concerned about pulling enough drinks for four people I agree with others' recommendations to get the professional, which will have a pressurestat and pressure gauge. Third generation will be easier to keep in temperature range but all can be managed if you use temperature strips on the group.
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Ardijan (original poster)
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#10: Post by Ardijan (original poster) »

Thank you all very very much! You have enlightened my choice :)

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