Synesso Cyncra Single Group - A Home Barista's Perspective - Page 4

[hperry]

I, for one, am very interested in the outcome of your Denver trip and the comparison with your two current machines.

I am going to be in Denver on Friday to work with the Versalab M3 espresso machine. It has been said that it produces high definition shots when it comes to clarity. It is my feeling that the comparison between the Cyncra and my home machine will boil down to clarity. I will use my experience with the Versalab to establish the high mark for clarity to which I will compare the other two machines

[Abe Carmeli]

It appears a head to head comparison between the Synesso and my home machine is just not in the cards. It is a shame, I was looking forward to it. I modified and replaced two check valves on the Cyncra to fix the brew pressure fluttering problem, but that did not help. The machine is going back to Synesso, where I'm sure it will be fixed.

[Rosemary]

Has there been any progress on sending you a machine to complete your review or have they decided they don't want the machine positioned in the domestic market?

Rosemary

[Abe Carmeli]

Has there been any progress on sending you a machine to complete your review or have they decided they don't want the machine positioned in the domestic market?

Rosemary

The Cyncra is still at Synesso. They are not sure what causes the fluttering pressure and testing a new and smaller pump on it now. So, bottom line, we are still waiting. As to the domestic market, I don't think that they intend to sell it only to commercial establishments. Most of the single group sales to date went to individuals, home users.

[cinergi]

Note that this problem is only occurring on the 1 group cyncra's and only 3 of those have exhibited this behavior. So far, the new pump is working flawlessly. I was able to temporarily fix the problem with the original pump by uninstalling/re-installing the pump pressure screw and spring (a 1 minute operation). The problem would go away for approximately a week then return. Perhaps the jet restricts flow enough to cause back pressure to build over time and affect the OPV on the pump. I guess it's also possible that Fluid O tech changed something on their pumps that caused the problem.

Doug

[lennoncs]

Hi All

I am sitting at Seattle airport waiting on a redeye back to detroit after spending last Friday with Mark, Sandy and Caleb at Synesso....they were wonderful and patient hosts with a midwest chatterbox that wanted to dig into everything in sight.


I took a ton of photos and will be posting a trip report in my free time but suffice to say I was blown away with the attention to detail, quality and customer service I saw. Mark really understands the concept of "Must run...ALWAYS" and the way the machines are built reflects that.

In a nutshell...
Gorgeous welds....even the ones you will never see!
Bomb-proof boilers
Standard fittings...Yeah!!
An emphasis on ease of maintainability.
Boiler drains that really drain the boiler.
De-scaling ports that are well thought out.
Continuous improvements to the product.



Cheers,
Sean


P.S.
This trip has been a long time in planning and in the end, I was only able to give 2 days notice to Synesso before showing up on their doorstep.

Thanks again to Mark and Sandy for their hospitality.

[pdx]

FWIW Synesso is now offering a hot water tap on the Cyncra 1 group. It features the same temperature adjustment valve as the larger machines. I think mine's the first; I'll post photos when I install it.

[laservet]

FWIW Synesso is now offering a hot water tap on the Cyncra 1 group. It features the same temperature adjustment valve as the larger machines. I think mine's the first; I'll post photos when I install it.

Any update?

gus

[pdx]

There's another thread about the new water tap where cinergi posted a photo. Synesso set him up with a kit he installed- mine came with the water tap from the factory.

Here's my setup. The hot water tap works as advertised. I set the temperature for my wife's tea (small price to pay for all that countertop real estate.) The drip tray grill shown here isn't the standard one. Also the portafilter isn't from Synesso.

[cannonfodder]

Are those saucers sitting under the machine, or are you using them as legs?

[pdx]

Are those saucers sitting under the machine, or are you using them as legs?

No, I'm not using saucers for legs.

That's just where I stash my saucers. I ordered the machine with the short legs, which are 2 1/2" long. The "NSF" standard legs are 6".

[Theodore]

The Dolce is a finicky coffee but when it's good... damn is it ever good!

Oh my God.
I have a Reneka Techno, for five years, and I have not ever seen such a shot.
I am jealous. So, I wait a comparative test, between this machine, and the two others of the upper class. The MX3 and the GS3.
Then I will have a meeting with myself and my Bank account, and we will see.
I wish to you a Happy New Year.
Regards from Athens Greece,
Theodore.

[Theodore]

Looking at the pictures of the interior, I have a question, which comes again and again to me.
Is it possible to have a machine, which will have the ability to put on and off the hot/steam water boiler, as I never make cappuccinos?
I think it is stupid to heat some liters of water, without reason.
Theodore.

[Jepy]

Is it possible to have a machine, which will have the ability to put on and off the hot/steam water boiler, as I never make cappuccinos?

The Cyncra has this ability. I often leave the steam tank off completely. You just won't have pre-heated water entering the coffee boiler tank(s), which can be too hot IMHO if the machine sits for a while

[Rosemary]

I am jealous. So, I wait a comparative test, between this machine, and the two others of the upper class. The MX3 and the GS3.

Theodore.

I'd love to see anyones comments on the three machines as well now that the GS3 is in production.

Thanks
Rosemary

[Theodore]

Hi again.
So, we now "have", three upper class machines. The M3X, the GS3, and the Cyncra.
It would be nice, if someone, expert, could test all three, so as to have a full knowledge about them.
It is a lot of money, if we made the decision to invest in one of them.
I hope this,(the test), will be done, soon.
Regards,
Theodore.

[pdx]

I'm not sure the M3X is or will be made. I tried to order one for a client this year & was assured they would be produced last summer, but they wouldn't take a deposit or sell an "old" M3. I've never heard that they are going ahead with the project & I notice the webpage hasn't been updated to reflect a new release date.

I have my Synesso in Portland. It seems likely that a GS3 will end up in the area whenever they ship. It would be easy to do a side-by-side comparison between the two. It would also be fairly apples-to-apples as my Synesso is a 110v, and I'm sure Billy or someone with an established reputation & very consistent technique could test them.

I've only heard rumors of when GS3's might ship. In one shows up in Portland let me know.

[Theodore]

Hi.
I found the Greek LM dealer in Athens, and I talked about the GS3.
He does not know about, but the manufacturer, had told him last summer, that he would be ready to ship on December. And that if the local dealer wanted some piece, should order it by summer..
I arrange to visit the dealer one of these days, so if there is some news, I write about.
As you know, Italy, is very close to Greece, so it is possible to have some news.
Regards,
Theodore.

[JimWright]

Reviving a long-sleeping thread here, but I'm curious to know (if anyone else does), has Synesso made any improvements that would change the temperature stability of the Cyncra?

Now that the GS/3 is finally shipping, I'd be very eager to see any comparison between production boxes as well.

[pdx]

Reviving a long-sleeping thread here, but I'm curious to know (if anyone else does), has Synesso made any improvements that would change the temperature stability of the Cyncra?.

Synesso has made a couple of changes. The PID & temp sensor have been updated to give 0.1F degree resolution. I didn't bother making this upgrade to my machine- I think that degree of control is probably not as big a deal as some have claimed.

Another upgrade they've made is a different SSR & heatsink for the brainbox that eliminates the cooling fan. This is a big deal to me in terms of electronics hygiene & noise.