Prototype La Marzocco GS3 - A Pro's Perspective - Page 12

[miKe mcKoffee]

How come it is so quiet on the GS3 front lately?

Sean

Maybe they think if they quit posting about them they will forget who has them.

[malachi]

shhh....

[betxs]

How come it is so quiet on the GS3 front lately?

Andy...did you fall off the face of the planet?


Sean

Speculation: LM told the privileged few testers to stop commenting; testers overdosed on caffeine; testers are trying to come up with more formulas that this LM will out temp control, out pressure control, out steam produce and control any other machine in the history of mankind; trying to figure out how all of the testers can use just ONE espresso bean to get reliable and valid tests results; trying to solve the "problem" of making this new LM even more accessible to a larger minority of the economic elite consumers(RHIP); testers have been absorbed into this new LM; etc., etc. etc...

Simply put...when it is finally put on the market, it will be a FANTASTIC machine, but sadly VERY FEW espresso enthusiasts will be able to afford it.

[lennoncs]

Speculation: Simply put...when it is finally put on the market, it will be a FANTASTIC machine, but sadly VERY FEW espresso enthusiasts will be able to afford it.

That is one of the reasons I still tinker with my Brewtus, if I can get a bit more performance out of an E61, then more people stand to gain in the end.


Sean

[barry]

That is one of the reasons I still tinker with my Brewtus, if I can get a bit more performance out of an E61, then more people stand to gain in the end.

...and why i tinker with the lineas. there are lots of coffee joints which cannot afford to continually upgrade to the latest machine.


--barry "retrofit!"

[AndyS]

How come it is so quiet on the GS3 front lately?

Andy...did you fall off the face of the planet?

Life has a way of intruding upon one's hobbies....I hope to write up a bit on the GS3 sometime soon....

[zin1953]

. . . when it is finally put on the market, it will be a FANTASTIC machine, but sadly VERY FEW espresso enthusiasts will be able to afford it.

Well, as much as I might DREAM of owning an Aston Martin DB5 . . . it sure makes a La Spaziale S1 cheap -- sorry, inexpensive -- by comparison!

[malachi]

The Review is nearly finished!!!

Once we get through final copy and then edits and review it will go live on the site.

Thanks to all for the tons of input, questions, comments and feedback.

It's been a great experience.

[Teme]

I look forward to the full review...

One more question - I'm wondering about the location of the electronics and how much heat they are subjected to? The GS3 is quite compact, a lot of technology packed into a relatively small shell and quite a lot of heat generated by the twin boilers. I would imagine that this makes finding a cool spot for the electronics difficult therefore potentially affecting their longevity, no? I realise that this wouldn't manifest itself during a review / commenting on this might be borderline in terms of the framework set by LM (i.e. not commenting in detail on the internals) - but this was just a though that popped into my mind...

Br,
Teme

[malachi]

It's a good question, but one I'm not qualified to answer.


The review is in final edits. Should be done and public very soon.
Coolness.

[malachi]

It's Alive!!!

If you've got comments on the article - please feel free to post in Article Feedback. Will be linked from the home page tomorrow.

Time to sleep...

[malachi]

By the way, I've been informed that the steam wand fix is not only done - but it's been installed on Greg's GS3.
Hey Greg... want to tell us about the changes? Have you switched tips?

[skyryders90]

By the way, I've been informed that the steam wand fix is not only done - but it's been installed on Greg's GS3.
Hey Greg... want to tell us about the changes? Have you switched tips?

Just bumping this in case Greg didn't see it.

[gscace]

By the way, I've been informed that the steam wand fix is not only done - but it's been installed on Greg's GS3.
Hey Greg... want to tell us about the changes? Have you switched tips?

Oh, Hi there:

I have a high pressure steam boiler relief valve and I've got the boiler up at 2 bars now. Steam performance is more Linea-like now and in keeping with the rest of the machine. I've got several steam tips to try. At 2 bars of pressure the tip Bill originally supplied works well and I make nice milk with it. I haven't used the other tips, but it's on my short list to do so. Between chasing Anneke, the Queen of entropy around, doing thermofilter stuff, and trying to keep my regular job, I'm pretty slammed. But I'll get to it.

-Greg

[malachi]

I have the GS3 back for a short visit (using it as the bench machine for an article I'm writing).

It now has the re-done steam wand (with a choice of three tips) as well as a new probe and some improved PID tuning.

I've missed it!

Needless to say... all the good things are at least as good (I haven't had time to do the whole WBC protocol and probably won't, but first tests look like a small improvement in inter-shot stability). But the big change is steaming. The GS3 is now, without a doubt, the best "home" machine I've steamed with. It's not quite in the class of the Linea (the limited articulation on the wand rules that out) but it's otherwise near world-class.


I have no idea about availability or price... but if I were going to be buying a "be all end all" non-custom machine where price was no option... there would be no competition.


I love this machine.

[xtophr]

Could this be the impetus behind the stylyng of the GS3? Here's an older machine on ebay that is clearly the same style as the GS3 prototype considered in this thread. It is 220 v. but I don't know what year it was made. Anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3873071238

[malachi]

That's the LM GS2 and yes, it's the "spiritual model" for the GS3.

[jrhudgins]

Has anyone any news about a projected release date for the GS3 ? Any rumors even?

Thanks,

JRHUDGINS

[ThaRiddla]

They've told me "later this year", however vague it is, it's still a projected timeline.

[annp]

I exchanged emails with someone at ESI and am on "the list."

Who knows what that means, I've been on lists before!

Ann
someday my GS3 will come