The Wilfa Svart Grinder

#1: Post by **rand** » March 28th, 2017, 11:09 am

Wilfa has apparently made a grinder that is turning heads. James Hoffmann has reviewed it on his channel:

It costs 105 GBP and looks to be a serious competitor even against more expensive baratza grinders. Does anyone else here have personal experience with this grinder and know if it's possible to get in the states? I sent an email to Williams-Sonoma asking if it would be possible that they had one sitting around or could get more (doubt I will get an answer).

#2: Post by **RyanJE** » March 28th, 2017, 11:26 am

The grounds bin would be the deal breaker for me.

And, if the grind is no better than a Baratza Encore, I dont see the point. If its better than the encore, another story.

March 28th, 2017, 11:38 am

I was just scrolling through the youtube comments when I saw that Hoffmann had posted about 20 minutes ago that a baratza vs wilfa comparison review would come this week (not sure if he is recording this week or posting this week). Based on some other comments, I'd expect a particle distribution analysis as well from the baratza vs wilfa video.

#4: Post by **redbone** » March 28th, 2017, 11:39 am

Specs here if anyone wants more info.

https://www.machina-espresso.co.uk/blog ... ee-grinder

Has to be better than an Encore for larger grinds. My experience with the Encore for drip \ P.O.etc. was not positive. YMMV.
I've had much better grind results (-retention) with the Capresso Infinity stainless steel body.

Anyway this is designed by Tim Wendelboe and the word is he's bought the farm

http://sprudge.com/tim-wendelboe-bought ... 83596.html

#5: Post by **cmin** » March 28th, 2017, 1:26 pm

Looks like all they did was slap the Wilfa name on a Breville

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCG450X ... B000MDHH0Q

#6: Post by **redbone** » March 28th, 2017, 1:42 pm

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Good eye Chris.

#7: Post by **wachuko** » March 28th, 2017, 2:17 pm

cmin wrote:Looks like all they did was slap the Wilfa name on a Breville

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCG450X ... B000MDHH0Q

But the Breville can grind for espresso... but yes... good eye, re-branded machine... maybe different burrs.

I stopped the video when he said it did not worked for espresso...

#8: Post by **cmin** » March 28th, 2017, 2:43 pm

wachuko wrote:But the Breville can grind for espresso... but yes... good eye, re-branded machine... maybe different burrs.

I stopped the video when he said it did not worked for espresso...

I doubt it can actually grind for espresso as others said it can't at least for a regular unpressurized basket, burrs and everything look same to me as Wilfa, just relabeled. Weird though, Wilfa isn't my thing, but their stuff seems to have a certain simple design look to it... and this grinder looks like a mini garbage can or paper shredder lol, kinda against their design philosophy.

#9: Post by **namelessone** » March 29th, 2017, 7:05 am

cmin wrote:Looks like all they did was slap the Wilfa name on a Breville

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCG450X ... B000MDHH0Q

It could be the other way around? Breville is based on Wilfa design? The Breville grinder is from 2007.

The new model with the improved motor, CGWS-130B just came out and the previous one WSCG-2 is also fairly new. The previous one to that was CGR-1 which I 'm not sure when it came out. There's nothing comparable available from Breville to WSCG-2 nor CGWS-130B.

#10: Post by **malling** » March 29th, 2017, 7:44 am

The Breville is propably older then the Wilfa, Wilfa where released around late 2010 early 2011 I think.

But that dos not mean Breville is the manufacture, there are allot of facturies producing consumer electronics for many well known brands.