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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by bobcraige on Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:10 pm

Recently, my brand new 1984 Olympia Mocca Express Grinder arrived, and I tried working with it. I have a Mazzer Mini that I use with my Olympia Cremina and am totally satisfied with the Mini. Though I am completely happy with the Mini, I have been looking for a small grinder that I could take along with me should the desire arise. The Cremina is actually quite a small machine, but the Mazzer Mini is quite large. If counter space is at a premium this is a great way to go.

Before the Mini, I used to use an older Braun Burr grinder, and was hoping to find a grinder the size of the Braun, but of top performance. As a huge fan of Olympia, I have been on a hunt for a Mocca Express Grinder and finally found a brand new 1984 one complete in the Original Packing. My first reaction to the Mocca's box was that it was smaller than I expected. While I knew the dimensions of the machine, you really have to have one in front of you to fully appreciate the size. Indeed, its size was very similar to the Braun. My first impressions were even better than I expected. What a beautifully made grinder. Although it is stepped, it allows very small rotational increments. The glass bean hopper is hand blown in Venice. The hopper lid is of stainless steel. The ground coffee is deposited in a polished stainless steel bin with a flip up lid.

The instruction say that "the grinder leaves the factory ready set for fine grinding suitable for espresso" at the zero mark on the ring. I filled the hopper half full of Ambrosia and turned the grinder on until the bin was about half full. I used two spoonfuls measured with the new Cremina spoon and tamped with my Torr tamper. Now I put the portafilter on the Cremina, preinfused for about ten seconds and pulled the lever. Wow, the grind is right on with perfect lever resistance just as the instructions said. I pulled a shot glass full of crema and it was excellent.

This is one special little grinder. The grind is of excellent quality. There appears lots of resolution to dial in the grind, though it was right on out of the box. While I prefer the Mini's doser to scooping from a hopper, it is a fine tradeoff for a little jewel like grinder that can go with you easily and does not compromise quality in any way.

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Compare this to the size of my Mini:

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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by miKe mcKoffee on Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:46 pm

Congratulations, sounds like a sweet little grinder! 8)
Now where can we buy one. :?: :!:
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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by miKe mcKoffee on Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:23 am

What happened to the original post I replied to :?: :!: Are there problems with the forum server randomly deleting messages or something :?:
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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by framey on Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:58 am

Sure there was a grinder... :roll:

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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by HB on Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:55 am

miKe mcKoffee wrote:Are there problems with the forum server randomly deleting messages or something :?:

Bob cross-posted to two forums and I deleted the second in Espresso Gear, obviously not noticing your reply. I should have merged it to this thread and I have done so now... sorry 'bout that.
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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by SuperT on Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:58 am

Would you mind sharing the price point?

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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by luca on Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:49 am

The current model of this grinder seems to go for about $800USD at 1st-line. I love the look of the glass hopper, but at that price point I'd go for the NS MCF every time. From the little experience that I've had with it, it strikes me as a really awesome grinder ... probably the equal of a mazzer mini. Can't understand how most people from the US and Canada who post on the various coffee webpages constantly eschew it. Constant repetition of the rancilio, mazzer and macap brand names, maybe?

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Re: Olympia Cremina's little brother

Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by espressoperson on Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:43 am

bobcraige wrote:While I prefer the Mini's doser to scooping from a hopper, it is a fine tradeoff for a little jewel like grinder that can go with you easily and does not compromise quality in any way.


Bob,

Thanks for reporting on the Olympia grinder. The Cremina next to the Mini, even as I use it without the hopper, is a David versus Goliath match. You make a compelling case for the esthetics of similar construction and scale.

How well do you think this grinder would function as a one dose at a time grinder? That's the way I use my Mini. I put just the 16 or so grams I need for a shot into the hopper, grind, and brush just about all out of the grinder each time. So I can easily switch between my wife's decaf, my Monkey, and an assortment of SOs on a shot by shot basis. Would it be possible/reasonable to run the Olympia that way?
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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by bobcraige on Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:31 am

Michael

I too grind just a single dose with the Mini. I find I can remove the top of the doser and grind quite accurately by using the doser as a gauge. I end up with almost no waste this way. I do not put a single dose of beans in the grinder, but rather leave a small amount of beans in the hopper to work from.

Since the bin does not come off the Mocca, you will be dosing with a scoop. I think it will be difficult get all the coffee out if you grind one shot at a time. It is also difficult to clean the remaining residue out manually. The factory recomments using a vacuum to clean the Mocca grinder.
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Link to "Olympia Cremina's little brother"by Brooklynshot on Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:56 pm

Hey folks - I recently got this SAME grinder on ebay... for only $198. I thought I was alone in the universe, enjoying this wonderful machine. ONLY ONE DIFFERENCE.... Mine is called a Pasquini Mocca Express (NOT the current version of the pasquini by the same name). This however is exactly the same grinder. The dimensions, parts breakdown, hopper and burr size are the same right down to the paint job. Mine just has a nice Pasquini logo on the side with their little poem about espresso. I also recently got an Olympia Coffex to go next to my Cremina. This grinder does wonders with both espresso machines. I also love the small (or should I rather say "compact" ?) size. This brings up an interesting question... Is there some connection between Olympia and Pasquini? I ask because this grinder seems to have been marketed under both brand names. The Olympia Coffex (now the Olympia Maximatic) was also sold by Pasquini as the "Livietta". What gives? Did Olympia and pasquini work together... or did one company buy out the other one's product line? Any ideas?

(See Olympia & Pasquini Conspiracy Theory for discussion).
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