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Link to "Olympia Cremina - water coming out of the safety valve"by bobcraige on Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:43 am

Ralph

No, you cannot consider anything fine. Even if you measure the boiler pressure, all that tells you it that the pressurestat is working and at what pressure it is set. The safety valve is, as the name implies, a SAFETY valve. It is there to relieve the pressure should the system fail. MAKE NO MISTAKE, PRESSURESTATS CAN AND DO FAIL! The safety would be set to a pressure higher than the designed working pressure, but still within the safe pressure limits of the mechanical system. This valve would be set to release at that higher pressure. The boiler pressure reading would tell you if the boiler were operating at the correct pressure. It would NOT tell you if the safety valve were set correctly. If the safety valve were leaking at the correct boiler pressure, it would indicate that there was a problem with the safety valve, but it would not tell you what the problem was. Changing the setting of the pressure valve now just leaves you noplace to go. You do not know if the valve is leaking because its seal has failed, the spring has fatigued, there is dirt in it, or the seat is damaged. If you took it apart, checked the seat, replaced the seal, and put the adjustment back as you found it, and it still leaked, you would know more. Since you lost the adjustment only really right way would be to actually MEASURE the safety valve operating point and set it properly. By compressing the spring, you can reach a point where the valve is locked shut and no amount of pressure will open it. Boilers are dangerous things-just because it is a little home appliance, does not make it safe for the untrained. Replacing the spring and the seal WILL NOT RECALIBRATE the valve. If you have to ask these questions, I would strongly suggest listening to Steve's suggestion about taking it to a trained professional who actually knows what they are doing. Make sure you tell them what you did to the safety valve. Even the best of service people cannot know that someone has been adjusting things that they should not.
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Link to "Olympia Cremina - water coming out of the safety valve"by hipponax on Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:25 am

OK, great; thanks! very helpful. I actually did note the original setting of the valve (counted the number of threads down from the top it was set at), so if I set it back to that, and replaced the spring and plastic disk, and found that there was no leaking, does this seem like I would be back at a proper setting? Or would the adjustment screw setting have to change anyway as soon as one put in a new spring and disk?
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Link to "Olympia Cremina - water coming out of the safety valve"by bobcraige on Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:23 am

Do not change the spring, simply clean the seat and change the seal. The adjustment was done with the original spring. Assuming the seat looks good, I would simply put in a new seal ($4.07), put the adjustment back where you found it, and see if it stops the leak. If that does not stop the leak, buy a new safety valve ($20.33) plus gasket ($1.22). Olympia does not sell the spring seperately anyway.
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Link to "Olympia Cremina - water coming out of the safety valve"by hipponax on Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:35 am

Thanks, Bob! Just to be perfectly clear (sorry, yes, I'm new to this): when you say to put in a "new seal", this refers to that clear plastic piece that snaps into place at the bottom, right? Also, is this something I can get from 1st-Line? Needless to say, I'm grateful for everyone's advice in this forum.

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Link to "Olympia Cremina - water coming out of the safety valve"by hipponax on Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:36 am

Thanks, Bob! Just to be perfectly clear (sorry, yes, I'm new to this): when you say to put in a "new seal", this refers to that clear plastic piece that snaps into place at the bottom, right? Also, is this something I can get from 1st-Line? Needless to say, I'm grateful for everyone's advice in this forum.

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Link to "Olympia Cremina - water coming out of the safety valve"by bobcraige on Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:52 am

To be fair, I have not taken one apart, though I am about to do so. I do not know what color it is, but I assume you are correct. 1st line should have the seal. If not, you could order it directly from the factory, but they have a minimum order and shipping might be expensive. The prices I quoted were from the factory web site:

http://www.olympia-express.ch/default.htm
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