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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by cannonfodder on Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:10 am

I went to Sams club to get some baby back ribs for the weekend when I noticed a big pallet of these...
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Is that the worst idea you have ever seen or what. Make you house smell like a roaster fire while you watch coffee crack and pop out of the fireplace and onto you carpet.

Made with recycled coffee :?
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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by chelya on Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:12 pm

A friend of mine tried those.
Actually they don't have any coffee smell (I assumed it would).
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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by MarkJames on Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:06 am

... actually, I think it would be a wonderful use for some of my local grocery store coffee beans :) Particularly the hazelnut or amaretto ones



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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by Worldman on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:22 am

cannonfodder wrote:Make your house smell like a roaster fire while you watch coffee crack and pop out of the fireplace and onto you carpet.


LOL! I would think the same thing. My questions.
1. What are they selliing? Are they selling recycled coffee - OR - coffee smell (which most folk like brewing and most dislike burning)?
2. Are these "logs" intended to be added to a normal wood fire? What is their effect when so added?
3. If the are intended to be their own fire, 6 x 2kg logs is a fire good for perhaps 1 to 2 hours assuming you can get the fire going with these things.

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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by Rocket Coffee on Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:05 am

cannonfodder wrote:Is that the worst idea you have ever seen or what. Make you house smell like a roaster fire while you watch coffee crack and pop out of the fireplace and onto you carpet.



Look a little deeper, it may not be "the worst idea you have ever seen", maybe not the greatest but certainly not the worst.

http://news.nationalgeographic.co...1025_java_log.html


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The smell is not what most people would expect, Sprules says. "It's not like a roastery. It doesn't smell that much. But it has a slight aroma, and most people seem to like it."

According to OMNI, an independent testing company in Beaverton, Oregon, the Java-Log burns seven times cleaner than firewood and emits 96 percent less residue. It produces 54 percent less carbon dioxide than sawdust fire logs.

The Java-Log also reduces waste headed for landfills. Each year the bulk of spent coffee grounds are sent directly to landfills. From there the rotting coffee grounds release carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, into the atmosphere.
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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by cannonfodder on Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:51 pm

My Buck stove runs around 96% efficient on good old (properly seasoned) hard wood, add in the catalytic converter, you don't even know it is running. No smoke out the chimney, quite amazing actually. I am still taken by the fact that people pay for fire wood, I cut and split around three cords a year.

I wonder if they use a binder to hold it all together. It may not work in the modern wood burning stove. Binders gunk up the catalytic converters and void the warranty, hence the no plywood or pressboard in a stove, the binders gunk up the system and are toxic when they burn. I heat my house with a wood burner.

Coffee should burn just fine seeing how it is mostly wood matrix. Personally, my grinds go into the compost heap or flower beds.
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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by Rocket Coffee on Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:28 pm

cannonfodder wrote:My Buck stove runs around 96% efficient on good old (properly seasoned) hard wood, add in the catalytic converter, you don't even know it is running.


That is one of the things I miss, a nice woodburning stove. I had the option of a fireplace when building my house but I'd only use it one or two times a year, Christmas and Thanksgiving. My friend bought a cord of firewood 3 years ago and he still has half of it. On the other hand our outdoor firepit gets used quite a bit in the winter, if you can really call it winter.
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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by Psyd on Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:56 pm

LJ wrote:That is one of the things I miss, a nice woodburning stove. I had the option of a fireplace when building my house but I'd only use it one or two times a year, Christmas and Thanksgiving. My friend bought a cord of firewood 3 years ago and he still has half of it. On the other hand our outdoor firepit gets used quite a bit in the winter, if you can really call it winter.


I got a bunch of pecan when I was camping up in Estrella Mountain Park, and I still have about a quarter of it eighteen months later. Gas fireplace (unused) and a gas BBQ (well used). The neighbor has a smoker that I'm 'saving' it for (I guess...)
OTOH, in the eleven years I've owned this house, I've only used the air conditioner once, too!
(And while Tucson doesn't get as hot as Phoenix, it does get quite warm!)
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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by Worldman on Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:31 am

That IS an interesting artical LJ found. It seems that these "coffee logs" burn longer than a conventional wooden log (of the same size)...but isn't that always the claim...until you try them. Also, they cost $3.50 each. (Dave, you wonder about folk paying for firewood. What about folk paying $3.50 a log?)

Yeah, give me a nice old fashioned wood fire complete with crackling sound and NATURAL wood fire smell.

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Link to "Now that is a bad idea"by miKe mcKoffee on Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:04 pm

Java Logs were discussed a number of years ago on SM home roast List. Personally I think they're a great way of recycling commercial volumes of spent coffee grounds. Obviously their target market isn't people who use wood stoves or the like for heating purposes but rather people who already occasionally burn things like Presto Logs for convenient ambiance fires. Don't see them as crazy at all.
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