Kees van der Westen announces production one group Speedster! - Page 3

[malachi]

Yes - the original had manual pre-infusion (paddlewheel).
Doubt that it will take more time to heat up than a GS3.

[Paul_Pratt]

As you can see, MkII will not have the LM group. I get the impression LM want to keep their group exclusive, so if you want a Kees van der Westen type machine with LM group(s), you have to buy a LM Mistral.

Regards
Peter

Maybe it's the other way round.....Kees designed his own group.

[Milton]

I just received an email from Kees. He is working on pricing now-adding up the costs of parts. He said the Speedster will not have a UL or NSF. Kees brother thought the plastic paddle wheel did not look good, so kees replaced it with a stainless steel lever and handle. Then, he polished the front of the machine. The picture below is how it will look.

[malachi]

from Kees...

We'll start production after the show, but as July-August is holiday-season here in Europe I suspect this start will not be a full blast. That is not really bad, it allows to do things properly.

What most home-users won't like is the external pump with the need to plumb it it in. It is so far 220volt, peak wattage 3.100.

[shadowfax]

I found plumbing in with John Guest fittings from Chris Coffee to be a real snap. It was easy and kind of fun. You just check for leaks when you hook it up, and then keep your eye on the setup for awhile.

I don't think doing home electrical work--installing a 15-20 amp 220V power supply--is near as easy. Even if you run the wires, cut the hole in the wall, and install the outlet box and circuit breaker yourself, you really ought to call an electrician to connect the wires, or at least verify your work. While flooding your house because you're an idiot really sucks, getting electrocuted because you're an idiot sucks a lot more...

[malachi]

The picture below is how it will look.

Given that the photo you provided is of the Mk I version and uses an LM group, I don't think it's likely to be how the Mk II version will look.

[xtophr]

Just got an email from Kees in reply to my question of when we would be able to see pictures of the actual machine. He replied, "Next week, I hope!".

[the_deal_maker]

Hi there,

just found some pixx of the New Speedster by Kees - unfortunately the text is in dutch.

http://www.koffiegek.nl/blog/blog...itel=Kees'_Kitchen

Best,
- Malte

[Beezer]

Interesting. The new group looks like a saturated design similar to the LM and Synesso groups. Very cool.

I wonder if it would be possible to get someone to make tempered glass or machined aluminum side panels for standard GS3's or other common machines. You could even have logos or slogans or whatever printed on them. This would allow people who can't afford a $10,000 machine to make sort of a "poor man's Speedster" by replacing just the side panels. Not quite the same, I know, but it might be a relatively cheap way to give your home machine a unique look.

[shadowfax]

Not quite the same, I know, but it might be a relatively cheap way to give your home machine a unique look.

I think "hot pink powdercoated outer shell" covers that pretty well.

but seriously, people with stainless shells wanting to get something custom done can probably take their panel(s) to a place that paints cars or something along those lines and get a really high quality job done for under $100. Custom panels I could see being easily several hundred dollars at minimum.

[Spironski]

I am on that forum also and have seen the pictures. Beware: only photos nr. 5&6 are of the Speedster. The rest is different stuff. This is actually talking about the Speedster (there is English also):

http://www.koffiegek.nl/blog/blog...r_Westen_Speedster

[Jepy]

Nice, but I was just curious how using a (POM)Delrin Diffuser would be a good thing. I would think that if the diffuser is just above the shower screen, it couldn't help transfer the heat from the group to the screen. AFAIK Delrin is pretty neutral in retaining heat, but it is super easy to machine. Also I always thought that this material was only rated up to 180F.
I've never tried brewing espresso with a lower temp shower screen, maybe it's a good thing?

[uscfroadie]

So basically this Mistral is a one-group version of this new beauty? What a BEAUTIFUL machine!!

http://www.lamarzocco.com/mistral.html

[malachi]

it's not a mistral.
it's a speedster.
it doesn't use LM group etc.
unique machine.

[CafSuperCharged]

I visited Kees and took some pictures of the NEW SPEEDSTER Mk II
http://www.home-barista.com/forums/speedster-mk-ii-by-kees-van-der-westen-t7154.html

Regards
Peter

[mdreuben]

OMG...Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING has filled me with this much lust in a very long time.

[CafSuperCharged]

I just received an email from Kees. He is working on pricing now-adding up the costs of parts. He said the Speedster will not have a UL or NSF. Kees brother thought the plastic paddle wheel did not look good, so kees replaced it with a stainless steel lever and handle. Then, he polished the front of the machine.

A few of the six Mk I machines Kees did for close relatives, but he must have skipped on brother. He then had some parts left over that he used to do a seventh Mk I for that brother. A few parts of the LM paddle group were missing, so he solved that the way the picture shows.
Basically Milton's picture shows a slightly, cosmetically, modified Speedster Mk I.
The new Mk II machine is totally different, except for the coach and foot work.

Regards
Peter

[CafSuperCharged]

Given that the photo you provided is of the Mk I version and uses an LM group, I don't think it's likely to be how the Mk II version will look.

Spot on.

Mk II coach and footwork are much the same.

Group, drip tray, innards - the complete espresso machine architecture - are all totally different.

http://www.home-barista.com/forums/sneak-peek-at-all-new-speedster-mk-ii-by-kees-van-der-westen-t7154.html

Regards
Peter


Mk II - original HB scoop - in Kees van der Westen's workshop

[edsel]

Kees posted some pictures of the new speedster with black side panels. The red-and-yellow stripes seem to be in keeping with the hot-rod look, but black might fit into the decor better in some homes...

[Phaelon56]

Where is the estimated $10K US price tag coming from?

His web site states:

Price of Speedster
The price of the Speedster has been determined on Euro 4.975,=.

Might I guess correctly that it means 4,975 Euros? if so then it translates to $7301.82 US. That's about the price of a GS3 or a one group Cyncra. granted - shipping and duties form Europe will push the price up but is the $4975 Euro figure is correct than it looks to be a very realistic price for this quality of machine.