Kees van der Westen announces production one group Speedster! - Page 2

[cannonfodder]

If you could ask questions to Kees, about the Speedster Mk II, or another of his creations/contraptions, what would they be?

Regards
Peter

Will you take one slightly used wife for trade?

[networkcrasher]

I see your one wife and raise you two!

[shadowfax]

... are you in Utah?

[networkcrasher]

Depends if you'll accept the trade offer

[malachi]

Oh yeah baby.

[roblumba]

Where did I say that?

After writing the post I quickly realized I made a mistake and edited my post. Just a matter of minutes later. Boy you guys are fast responders.

[zin1953]

If you could ask questions to Kees, about the Speedster Mk II, or another of his creations/contraptions, what would they be?

No questions. I've lusted after his machines since I first saw them. I love my Elektra, and can't imagine wanting to upgrade*, but if I ever did, it would be to one of his machines. Same thing if I ever opened a café (which I also can't see doing, but -- if I did, I'd get one [or two] or his).

Cheers,
Jason

* Of course, I've only had it for a month, but -- still . . .

[zin1953]

FWIW, this is a link to a series of pictures of van der Westen's old one-group Speedsters. I don't know if the new ones will be the same, or . . . .

[JimWright]

If you could ask questions to Kees, about the Speedster Mk II, or another of his creations/contraptions, what would they be?

Will they make a 110V version, and will a one group Idro be following the revised Speedster?

[Tim356]

Mark and Dave,

Are our wives really worth that much???

Tim356

[networkcrasher]

Mark and Dave,

Are our wives really worth that much???

Tim356

I plead the 5th?

[cannonfodder]

Mark and Dave,

Are our wives really worth that much???

Tim356

Low miles and one owner, I will even toss in some Cuban cigars, my dog and the new cat.

No I wont, Cubans are too good to part with.

[malachi]

I'm waiting to see if I can get any more recent photos. If I can, I will provide.

Some interesting points...

• diffuser in POM plastic, doesn't get dirty as soon, easy to clean and doesn't affect the watertemperature on its last path towards the coffee. Diffuser is also easily removable.
• group solenoid valve in stainless only
• 0.6mm jet
• progressive pre infusion cylinder, chromed piston actually moves up through bodypanel
• external large professional rotation pump with motor
• non-spattering hot water
• activation of group by small lever with shiftgate: off-infuse-brew
• filterholders with teflon coating on inside

1 - Stainless group, stainless block, POM diffuser, stainless solenoid valve, teflon coated portafilters.
2 - manual pre-infusion with progressive linear preinfusion (!!) and 0.6mm gicleur.
3 - hot/cold water mixing for hot water spout.
4 - external pump, plumbed in.


MMMMmmmmm.....

[Jacob]

FWIW, this is a link to a series of pictures of van der Westen's old one-group Speedsters.

I'm waiting to see if I can get any more recent photos. If I can, I will provide.

Here is one of the old New Speedster prototype:

[CafSuperCharged]

FWIW, this is a link to a series of pictures of van der Westen's old one-group Speedsters. I don't know if the new ones will be the same, or . . . .

AFAIK the two photos on top are the original Speedster (Mk I, I would call them).
The photo of the version in the bottom, in the past I saw elsewhere and I then thought it had a different group, so it might become Mk II one day.
Reading Kees' notes with it and closely looking at the group, it actually is the same LM, yet polished and with a modified paddle mechanism.
A car association with the first one is Spyker 2008, whereas the second one makes me think of the family of models around the Bentley Speed Six of the 1920's & 30's.
(please, no jokes about matching Breitling watches here ).

Regards
Peter

[malachi]

photos of Mk I Speedster (2001) - http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/e...ork-speedster.html
photos of prototype Speedster (2005) - http://homepage.mac.com/jepy/PhotoAlbum60.html

From the description - I would tend to assume that the final Mk II Speedster will be quite different from the 2005 prototype.

[Beezer]

So is he still using the LM group and internals, or is he using a group of his own design? The site seems to indicate that he's using his own group.

[IMAWriter]

FWIW, this is a link to a series of pictures of van der Westen's old one-group Speedsters. I don't know if the new ones will be the same, or . . . .

My Gosh, how gorgeous
Thanks for the pix!

[CafSuperCharged]

The Speedster is a one group machine. It's main technical features are:
• brandnew double boiler system in stainless steel,
• brandnew group in stainless, both boilers and group are fully developed by ourselves
• PID with solid state relays on both boilers
• pre-heated water to coffee water boiler
• diffuser in POM plastic, doesn't get dirty as soon, easy to clean and doesn't affect the watertemperature on its last path towards the coffee. Diffuser is also easily removable.
• no screw to hold group screen, yet screen and rubber gasket are easily removable
• self bleeding group
• group solenoid valve in stainless only
• 0.6mm jet
• progressive pre infusion cylinder, chromed piston actually moves up through bodypanel
• external large professional rotation pump with motor
• non-spattering hot water
• activation of group by small lever with shiftgate: off-infuse-brew
• strong and long lasting steampower, steamtip with 4 holes
• filterholders with teflon coating on inside
• foot activated steam valve optional

As you can see, MkII will not have the LM group. I get the impression LM want to keep their group exclusive, so if you want a Kees van der Westen type machine with LM group(s), you have to buy a LM Mistral.

Regards
Peter

[shadowfax]

photos of Mk I Speedster (2001) - http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/e...ork-speedster.html
photos of prototype Speedster (2005) - http://homepage.mac.com/jepy/PhotoAlbum60.html

From the description - I would tend to assume that the final Mk II Speedster will be quite different from the 2005 prototype.

Chris, it looks like from the pictures that the 2005 speedster had manual preinfusion. Is that the case with the paddle wheel group on the original 2001 Speedster as well?

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Wow, a stainless group! I am really curious to see that. Sounds like this baby may take awhile to heat up and stabilize (from being cold)