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Link to "I want a bigger font"by bobdc on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:13 pm

Would really appreciate if HB would increase the font size at the home page's "latest forum topics" on the left. Granted my eyes are not as they used to be but the rest of the site is fine. However, to read the listing of latest forum topics I usually need to make the font larger. I suspect that type could grow a little without disrupting the integrity of the page. Thanks
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by TimEggers on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:18 pm

Is this why its been changed? I thought maybe my monitor was acting up...
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by HB on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:35 pm

The original stylesheet had a mix of fonts specified in pixels and points (and probably a few ems). A few weeks back I normalized them to the same size specification so the "larger font" keys on browsers like Firefox would work correctly (FYI, for Firefox, Ctrl+ = larger font, Ctrl- = smaller font, Ctrl+0 (zero) = default). I've bumped the 'latest topics' font up 1 point.

PS: The recent topics link shows the same content using the forum's layout. Its fonts are much bigger than the home page's sidebar.
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by bobdc on Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:52 pm

HB wrote:
I've bumped the 'latest topics' font up 1 point.

PS: The recent topics link shows the same content using the forum's layout. Its fonts are much bigger than the home page's sidebar.


Thanks for the 'up'grade. I just checked it out and it reads well for me and looks in conformity as well.
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by Richard on Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:20 pm

HB wrote:I've bumped the 'latest topics' font up 1 point.

In my opinion, the size of the font in the message screens could be increased, too.
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by HB on Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:43 pm

bobdc wrote:I just checked it out and it reads well for me and looks in conformity as well.

As an amateur web designer, I think it looked better before and was consistent with the visual hierarchy, but oh well. The "Latest topics" on the home page is really meant for first time visitors, not regular use. You may find the recent topics or RSS feed more convenient. Both Firefox and Internet Explorer have built-in handling of RSS feeds. Just look for this symbol and click on it:

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There is an RSS feed per forum and site-wide.

Richard wrote:In my opinion, the size of the font in the message screens could be increased, too.

It really depends on your monitor. I have a large high resolution monitor with high DPI and fonts on some sites look like fly droppings. As a guideline, I follow the font size choices of major sites like CNN. If you use Firefox, it's easy to bump the font size up and down with a keystroke. This comes in handy when I switch between the 15.4" / 1900 pixels and 14" / 1400 pixels displays.

It's no help now, but the next version of phpBB uses CSS and comes out of the box with three user-controlled font sizes (small, medium, large). I will upgrade the site to it sometime next year (it's still in release candidate status).
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by HB on Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:51 pm

You've been reading my e-mail spam folder. :lol:
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by TimEggers on Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:02 am

HB wrote:As an amateur web designer, I think it looked better before and was consistent with the visual hierarchy, but oh well.


Agreed. Looking forward to the new H-B.com!
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by HB on Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:39 am

TimEggers wrote:Agreed.

Ha! Looking at it again on another monitor (1400x1050 pixels, 14.1") versus a larger one (1900x1200 pixels, 15.4"), I still think it looks better as it was before. It's the same font size as the sub-navigation bar in the forums. For those straining their eyes, why not use the recent topics page or the RSS feed? Or use Firefox's View > Text Size > Increase. I've switched it back so you can try these alternatives.

Guess espresso isn't the only thing we're picky about...

TimEggers wrote:Looking forward to the new H-B.com!

To be honest, there aren't a lot of new features in the 3.0 release that are "must haves." Bookmarks are nice, CSS would be welcome (it includes a built-in set of larger font choices), some nice searching options. But the majority of the new features seem geared towards managing hostile boards (banning, moderated posting, reporting violations, spam control, etc.). Thankfully HB doesn't have those problems, so I struggle to find justification for the many weekends it would require to migrate (mostly the "look" and custom code).
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by kahvedelisi on Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:40 pm

Dan,

In your normal.css file -->

If you change this line

Table:
body {
   font-size: 10px;
}


to this

Table:
body {
   font-size: 0.65em;
}


Then us, old fashioned IE users will also be able to use our IE browser's text size option, which is not working right now because it's "fixed" with "px" in css.

No worries btw, it won't change site's overall font size, infact font size will stay same but it will let us use IE text size option.

Useful info --> how to size text in css
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by HB on Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:48 pm

Changed as suggested, thanks.
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by Richard on Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:49 pm

And as you might expect, everyone's mileage is likely going to vary. The effect in Firefox 3 is nonsalutary.
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by kahvedelisi on Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:14 pm

Okay just installed firefox3 and I see what you mean Richard. Overall site looks okay but "forum's postbody text" now displays 14px text size. Here's the solution. (And it's caused by this parent/child issue explained in link I gave with my previous post above)

in hb3a.css find this line

Table:
.postbody .content {
   FONT-SIZE: 1.3em
}


and change it to

Table:
.postbody .content {
   FONT-SIZE: 1.1em
}


then all will be fixed for both IE and firefox users. I'm sorry I didn't count forum postbody has its own font size definition since it was working fine with FF2. I apologize from all users if I caused temporary problems with my suggestion :)

PS. This time checked it with FF2 (was working without problems already), FF3 and IE7 both for forum, and other pages of HB site locally on my machine.
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Link to "I want a bigger font"by HB on Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:07 am

Gotta love CSS. Anyway, I added the changes you suggested and I retested on Firefox 2.0 and Internet Explorer 7. Post fonts look teenie tiny on Firefox. I've gone back to the original implementation... members will have to refresh their browsers. :roll:
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