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How often do you change espresso blends?

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How often do you change espresso blends?

Never (one blend only)
1
2%
Every couple weeks
20
43%
At least once a week
14
30%
Every couple days
2
4%
Daily
3
6%
Other (explain)
7
15%
 
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by HB on Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:23 am

Because changing the coffee requires redialing in the grinder, I typically stay with the same blend for a couple days, averaging 2-3 espresso blends per week. Do you change less or more frequently?
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by rgs1218 on Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:03 pm

I've only been pulling my own shots for a little over a month now so I've just started experimenting with various blends and SO. Generally, I order a pound each of something new (2 lbs at once as I usually burn through that much in 10-14 days), dial it in (or do my best to), try it various ways (straight, macchiato, cappa), and make a few notes for reference.

I've tried the following

CCM's espresso and vienna roasts as well as their Brazilian (cheap and in town, so no shipping)
Caffe Fresco Ambrosia and Luna Nouva decaf
Coffee Emergency Code Brown and CBX blends
Intelligentsia's Black Cat (using now) with Kid O on deck.

Really like Ambrosia and Code Brown straight and Black Cat more so in milk (though I've started this bag so the jury is still out). CCM's coffee is OK, though much of their stuff, including their espresso blend, is roasted too dark. Vienna roast is probably their best blend. Their stuff is my choice if I need to burn through some beans while practicing technique.

Next orders will probably be Stumptown's hairbender or Metropolis Redline. Obviously, hitting the popular favs first.

So longwinded explanation over...new beans every 5-7 days.

So many beans, so little time.

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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by cannonfodder on Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:22 pm

I home roast, so I usually change once a week, even if it is something as simple as changing a percentage. When I hit something I really like, I will do a couple of roasts just to check consistency.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by papalatte on Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:49 pm

My Little roasting venture is roasting Santa Elena from El Salvador and peaberry from Papua New Guinea. So I'm sampling each roast, that keeps me in coffee. Right now I'm not interested in blends...............

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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by another_jim on Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:02 pm

I have a "House Blend" that I'll stick with for about 3 to 6 months; coming up with a new one when the old greens run out. Currently it's 20% Aged Sumatra, 40% Mao Harar, 30% Daterra Yellow Bourbon and 10% WP Oromia Yrg, with occasional forays with robusta or other beans.

The idea was to get something close to vintage port, but this blend is more like an indifferent tawny, lots of sweetness, oaky funk and caramel, but never developing enough dark fruit and chocolate notes. This blend will run out in another month to 6 weeks. I'll see if I can get more subtle with the aged sumatra and work in the notes I want.

Along with that, I do SOs or any blends I get curious about; usually 2 or 3 a week, with good ones getting return gigs.

My guess is that the blend isn't really as bad as I think, since I'm feeling increasingly blah about all the blends I try. Rather, I think that combining the overall taste balance and everyday comfort food usability of an espresso blend with the interest of an SO is an inherently difficult job.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by luca on Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:18 am

Yeah ... I tend to home roast about 1/2kg every week. I tend to start off with an idea for a blend and tweak it each week. Every now and then I'll get coffee from another roaster or roastery to try, so I'd usually have two or three blends going in any given week. I'm getting better at guessing how they need to be dosed/tamped etc in relation to each other ...

Currently I've got three coffees going:

-A blend for milk drinks; mandheling, bugisu, PNG kimel and a touch of robusta. This is designed to give me a relatively boring espresso, but to give me the largest margin of error possible (I'm using a rocky/silvia combo).

-Yemen Ismali SO

-A blend based on Dominican Baharona, with Kimel and Bugisu. This was made for my boss' Synesso, but my exam schedule jammed up too much for me to get it down to him. Guess that means that I'll just have to use it and give him the 2nd iteration ... and stop procrastinating!

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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by roblumba on Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:39 am

I've had something like an Evolution in Coffee Beans.

I started on a local Lost Gatos Coffee Roasters for a length of 1 year. I didn't know about online roasters, so in my mind, this was the best roaster in the area.

I moved to Barefoot Coffee Roasters for around 3 months after learning about them in the Best of the Bay publication in The Wave Magazine (a free, popular local mag). Driving back and forth grew tiring and sometimes the beans would be 1 week old on the shelf and they didn't have a consistent roasting schedule. Even if I called ahead of time, they couldn't tell me if they would roast the particular blend I wanted. There were some blends I really liked and others I didn't care for.

I tried a variety of online roasters for several months after learning about the variety of online roasters from the online forums. I also tried a local roaster called Moonbeans, but they couldn't guarantee to have enough espresso beans to sell me a 1lb a week. I would go in there, ask for a 1lb, they would look in their supply of roasted beans and consistently tell me they couldn't sell me a 1lb. So now I just use them for 1/2 lbs when I'm out of my regular supply.

I now have settled on Ecco Caffe (http://www.eccocaffe.com) for the last 4 months or so. I've signed up for a subscription service and just let the beans come once a week. I love all their espresso blends, so I leave it up to them to send me something from their Monday roast. The beans come especially fresh because they are located only a few hours from where I live. I don't need to drive anywhere, coordinate roasting schedules with my schedule, or fill out online order forms. I just sit back and relax, and they come in the mail once a week. I'm always satisfied.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by VS_DoubleShot on Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:19 pm

I usually rotate between the following roasters (not always the same blends):
Terroir Coffee
Gimme! Coffee
Bluebottle Coffee (.net)
Klatch Coffee
Kean Coffee (local roaster/cafe owned by Martin Diedrich)

Will probably order a roaster soon and start home-roasting.
Thinking I may cut out the Klatch and Gimme soon as they don't really do it for me anymore.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by HB on Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:28 pm

roblumba wrote:I've signed up for a subscription service and just let the beans come once a week. I love all their espresso blends, so I leave it up to them to send me something from their Monday roast.

I met Andrew at the USBC and really enjoyed talking with him. I'm glad to see he has an e-commerce site going, but I'm puzzled by the shipping charges. The least expensive option presented for one pound was USPS Parcel Post at $10.90. :shock:
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by zak42 on Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:49 pm

HB wrote:The least expensive option presented for one pound was USPS Parcel Post at $10.90. :shock:


Yowza!, that's gonna hurt. It would appear that it depends on where you are, to San Francisco for 1Lb, the cheapest option was $4.20 Priority mail. Are you on the east coast ? I rarely buy from east coast roasters because its expensive and/or slow to get it over to the west coast.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by HB on Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:09 pm

Yes, I'm on the east coast. Steve at Ecco Caffe informed me that USPS erroneously applied the mysterious charge because the shipment crossed the Mississippi. The actual charge is closer to $5-$6 for east coasters.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by framey on Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:37 pm

luca wrote:Yeah ... I tend to home roast about 1/2kg every week. I tend to start off with an idea for a blend and tweak it each week. Every now and then I'll get coffee from another roaster or roastery to try, so I'd usually have two or three blends going in any given week. I'm getting better at guessing how they need to be dosed/tamped etc in relation to each other ...


About half an hour ago I threw together a mini blend that is similar to the first blend you mentioned... sorta. My beans are also home roasted, and mainly for milk drinks.
Predominantly Kimel, then Huehuetenango, then Bugisu, finished off with a dash of slightly older Terrazu.
I've got some Indian Kappi Royale (with cheese) that is about 3 days old, so I might try something even closer to the blend you mentioned in the next few days. This is the first time I've tried robusta, are you roasting it fairly dark? I wasn't sure if there was a desirable origin flavour to maintain?

The next round of experimental blending will involve:
Kenya Dorman AA
Colombian Buckamaraga
Guatemalan Huehuetenango
Indian Kappi Royale Robusta
Indian Tiger Mountain

I went a bit overboard last time I roasted :D
I think I've got just under 3kgs of the coffee mentioned above... I may have to start sending out samples for outside input. Luca can you make a sound like a Guinea Pig :D
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by Matthew Brinski on Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:17 pm

I have been trying to limit myself to using no more than two blends at a given time. I designate one blend as somewhat of a "default" blend that I can really work on my dosing and other techniques in an attempt to really learn and understand what I'm doing with that coffee ... I've been using Black Cat for that. The second blend is one that I change up to see the different coffees that are out there ... as of late, it's been a lot of Terroir Northern. I've had really good fortune with it both straight and as a macchiato.

HB wrote:Yes, I'm on the east coast. Steve at Ecco Caffe informed me that USPS erroneously applied the mysterious charge because the shipment crossed the Mississippi. The actual charge is closer to $5-$6 for east coasters.


I had an order from Ecco last week where I paid $9.80 for USPS shipping (priority) for 2# of coffee, and I live in CO. I just checked their site and the same order's shipping charge is now $5.15 .... very cool ... THANKS ECCO!

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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by luca on Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:35 pm

framey wrote:This is the first time I've tried robusta, are you roasting it fairly dark? I wasn't sure if there was a desirable origin flavour to maintain?


Yeah, I tend to roast robusta fairly dark. But I find that Robusta is often very overpowering no matter what you do and how little you use. Tends to get better as you let it rest, though ...

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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by Espressobear on Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:32 pm

In trying to decide on the brand I'd use, I went around to various coffee shops, tried them and asked the baristas what they were usinig. The one I liked best was PT's Bella vita espresso. (there are in Topeka Kansas, and Kansas City Mo.) After using all I tried some other brands; they were ok, but not really great. So I went back to the PT. It's a full house roast and has a really rich flavor, good crema. It's aroma has chocolate overtones.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by stofer on Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:20 am

I like to get "into" each blend, so I tend to stick with it for a while trying to explore it as it develops post roast. On the other hand I find changing roasting batch within a blend isn't all that different from changing blends, you have to reset anyway. So I usually get a pound or two of one blend, what I can consume in less than two weeks, drink it, backflush and go shopping again for whatever's available(not that much to choose from in Norway :x )
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by hperry on Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:48 am

zak42 wrote: I rarely buy from east coast roasters because its expensive and/or slow to get it over to the west coast.


I'm on the West Coast and get 2 pounds of Caffe Fresco for 4.20. Doesn't seem to be all related to distance.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by Mark08859 on Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:40 pm

I rarely order the same thing twice in a row. Sometimes I return to another old favorite, other times it'll be something new just to give it a try.
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by iiifrank on Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:43 pm

I chose other. I stick with Black Cat for the most part. Every couple months or so, I try a pound of something else and then switch right back. :)
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Link to "How often do you change espresso blends?"by cannonfodder on Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:29 am

Lets see, right now I have espresso Havana, espresso Nuevo, espresso classico, Sumatra lake tawar, Bolivia COE calama marka, aged Sumatra mandehling 2003, Bello blend and ambrosia. That means I can drink a different coffee each day and two in one day.

Variety is the spice of life.
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