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Link to "HB site update"by networkcrasher on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:29 pm

Jacob wrote:I had to disable and enable BBcode and Smilies in my control panel :?

- now back in business :twisted:


Really? I did that and it still doesn't work for me - at least not in those forums I mentioned.

I even tried the "Delete all board cookies" link
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Link to "HB site update"by Jacob on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:37 pm

networkcrasher wrote:Really? I did that and it still doesn't work for me - at least not in those forums I mentioned.

I even tried the "Delete all board cookies" link

I was a little to fast, but I works here :?
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:41 pm

RapidCoffee wrote:Odd missing quote and smiley in Jacob's recent post on the Cyncra thread. May not be related to the migration.

The Disable BBCode and Disable smilies checkboxes on the Options tab for those posts were checked. I unchecked them and resubmitted the post. Perhaps the profile option wasn't properly migrated? Try going back to the post(s) in question and unchecking these options and also verify the Board preferences > Editing posting defaults has Yes for "Enable BBcodes by default".
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:46 pm

networkcrasher wrote:did there used to be a [ youtube ] style BBCode?

There is, but they have to be updated in the database. Same goes for the [gvideo] and [s] tags. I'll run an update once the search rebuild completes.
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:51 pm

networkcrasher wrote:Weird, Even though my pic is 761px wide, it's cut off and there's no scrolling option to see the far right in FF.

Also, if I upload a picture, but do not place it inline, shouldn't it show up as an attachment?

I reworked the default attachment dialogs to be more "image centric". For example, the Place inline option inserts an [img] tag instead of an [attachment] tag. This saves a server roundtrip into the database, going directly to the web server to fetch the image. For you programmer types, phpBB V3 uses an indirection to prevent image hotlinking, but I like the convenience of being able to copy/paste image references within the forum. So HB uses all [img] tags and has no need for an [attachment] tag and the server blocks hotlinking in the .htaccess file by returning a 403 'access forbidden' for non-HB referrers.

As a consequence, you are required to insert an [img] tag within your post. I suppose that I could add code to do it for you (e.g., if you attached an image but forgot), but typically posters add captions / follow-on comments anyway.
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Link to "HB site update"by Jacob on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:54 pm

HB wrote:The Disable BBCode and Disable smilies checkboxes on the Options tab for those posts were checked.

Sorry, but I can't find these checkboxes under the Options tab?
I only see the "Do not automatically parse URLs" and "Notify me when a reply is posted" options!

The "Editing posting defaults" were migrated the right way, but .....
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:59 pm

networkcrasher wrote:Weird, Even though my pic is 761px wide, it's cut off and there's no scrolling option to see the far right in FF.

Here's an image that's 800x600:
Image


This one is 600x400:

Image

Neither should be clipped... but the upper one is. Will investigate.
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:07 pm

networkcrasher wrote:Weird, Even though my pic is 761px wide, it's cut off and there's no scrolling option to see the far right in FF.

Found the problem... sort of. Somewhere along the line integrating the new layout, the forum content area got smaller. For now, I've set the scroll area threshold lower to 700 and left the max image size at 800. Thanks for the catch.
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Link to "HB site update"by RapidCoffee on Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:22 pm

Minor suggestion: if there's room for Previous/Next buttons at the top of the screen (near the page numbers), please add them. They're available at the bottom of the screen, but it would be a nice convenience feature to have them handy at the top as well, since they get used so often. (Apologies if this has already been suggested in a different thread.)
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:23 pm

Jacob wrote:The "Editing posting defaults" were migrated the right way, but .....

Fixed... for unknown reasons, the permissions for BBcode/img/smilies was not carries across to forums that are reply-only. BBcodes et al should be work for you now in all forums. Thanks for the report.
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:32 pm

RapidCoffee wrote:They're available at the bottom of the screen, but it would be a nice convenience feature to have them handy at the top as well, since they get used so often.

Good suggestion. I grouped the pagination / next actions in one general area (upper right) and missed this one. It's added, thanks.
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:47 pm

perstare wrote:Respectfully disagree & agree. Forum's & Marketplace's font is too small and narrow. Home Page in FIREFOX is way too big.

The forum and article are supposed to run from the same stylesheet, but that work isn't complete. When completed, the forums and the rest of the site will use the same fonts, colors, etc. IE and Firefox present yet another problem; I confirm that the fonts on non-forum pages are different in IE and Firefox, though the difference isn't as dramatic as you suggest on my browser (e.g., comparing this site against cnn.com, HB's homepage font is about the same as CNN using Firefox and smaller using IE).

Thanks for your patience. The Ctrl+ and Ctrl- will help in the short-term; in the long-term, I would like to add a profile option that enables members to set their font size preferences site-wide (e.g., 80% smaller, 110% larger, 120%). That's one of the motivations behind going with CSS: Switching the presentation on a per-visitor basis is not difficult.
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Link to "HB site update"by Fore on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:18 pm

Nice Job, but the vast majority of online forums has the users name and info and all on the left side of the webpage. Now it's on the right. Not very 'intuitive' anymore...hard habits hard to beat lol But no big deal.
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Link to "HB site update"by TimEggers on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:20 pm

HB wrote:The forum and article are supposed to run from the same stylesheet, but that work isn't complete. When completed, the forums and the rest of the site will use the same fonts, colors, etc. IE and Firefox present yet another problem; I confirm that the fonts on non-forum pages are different in IE and Firefox, though the difference isn't as dramatic as you suggest on my browser (e.g., comparing this site against cnn.com, HB's homepage font is about the same as CNN using Firefox and smaller using IE).

Thanks for your patience. The Ctrl+ and Ctrl- will help in the short-term; in the long-term, I would like to add a profile option that enables members to set their font size preferences site-wide (e.g., 80% smaller, 110% larger, 120%). That's one of the motivations behind going with CSS: Switching the presentation on a per-visitor basis is not difficult.


Outstanding. It's looking great Dan. I'm really liking it a lot. Good work!
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Link to "HB site update"by Jacob on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:22 pm

Topics newer than 4h 15m (from now) can't get marked as read!

EDIT:
Sorry the answer is that I used a URL ending like this:
/search.php?search_id=newposts

And we now use:
/search.php?search_id=unread
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:33 pm

Fore wrote:Nice Job, but the vast majority of online forums has the users name and info and all on the left side of the webpage. Now it's on the right. Not very 'intuitive' anymore...hard habits hard to beat lol But no big deal.

That was my exact thought when the new style came out. Pages of discussion ensued on the phpBB.com forum (link). After a few weeks, I came to prefer it. Go figure.
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Link to "HB site update"by networkcrasher on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:37 pm

HB wrote:As a consequence, you are required to insert an [img] tag within your post. I suppose that I could add code to do it for you (e.g., if you attached an image but forgot), but typically posters add captions / follow-on comments anyway.


Makes much more sense. Thanks for the clarification. You're doing a great job Dan! Keep it up!
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:38 pm

Jacob wrote:/search.php?search_id=newposts

And we now use:
/search.php?search_id=unread

The recent topics / recent posts are mostly for visitors. They'll show the last fews days of activity. The "unread" choices are only shown to those who log in.
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Link to "HB site update"by networkcrasher on Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:39 pm

HB wrote:That was my exact thought when the new style came out. Pages of discussion ensued on the phpBB.com forum (link). After a few weeks, I came to prefer it. Go figure.


Does make more sense for us left to right readers. I'd rather have preferential data on the left and have information I don't necessarily need to see on the right.

People will probably get used to it, it's just everything looks so amazingly different I can understand the shock.

EDIT: The feature where it shows posts that happened while you were composing your reply is friggin' SWEET! :mrgreen:
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Link to "HB site update"by HB on Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:34 pm

HB wrote:...in the long-term, I would like to add a profile option that enables members to set their font size preferences site-wide (e.g., 80% smaller, 110% larger, 120%). That's one of the motivations behind going with CSS: Switching the presentation on a per-visitor basis is not difficult.

As I thought, it wasn't hard at all: Go to your User Control Panel and select Normal/Medium/Large under Profile > Font Size. It will increase the default font in the forum and the rest of the site, though there will still be an IE/Firefox difference until the non-forum content is entirely converted to CSS.
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