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Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass

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Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by Hogfire on Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:37 pm

In an attempt to tweak my machine for the best possible performance, I cracked the top of the water level sight glass, but all is well!

I replaced the plastic piston with a brass version from Espresso Parts North West, and I feel the money spent is justified. The brass piston is considerably heavier than the plastic, adds a more substantial feel to pulling the lever, and seems to offer a bit smoother action due to the increased weight. I've read that brass will retain more coffee residue than plastic, but I'm not too concerned. I've had this machine for a year, and this is the first time I've removed the dispersion screen and piston. Surprisingly, there was no coffee residue in the grouphead, and only a tiny bit on the inside of the screen. It seems not much but air really gets sucked up into the grouphead if you do a second pull. I've also read in comparisons that the Elektra Microcasa and Olympia Cremina produce shots just a bit better than the Pavoni. I've only pulled a few shots with this new piston so far, but the results show a bit more improvement. Perhaps this piston evens out the playing field now between all these machines. I suppose in the end, it's somewhat akin to adding better breathing muffler tips and air filters to a car. Just a bit more horsepower, but noticeable to the driver.

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I broke the sight glass trying to fit the new piston. I turned the machine over, not realising the pressure gauge was also receiving pressure while pushing in the piston. I heard a faint "crack" sound, and when I went to test the machine at pressure, there was a leak from the top of the sight glass area. At first I thought it was the gauge which was compromised, but when I took that area apart, here's what I found.


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Luckily, only the top few cm of the glass broke off (I found all the bits and thoroughly rinsed the machine for scattered shards), and it was still long enough to be covered by the gaskets. Here's the repositioned sight glass, machine up to pressure, and no leaks!

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Of course I'm not going to rely on this holding forever, so I've ordered a new sight glass, only $6 from Espresso Parts.

And lastly, I changed out the steam tip. Finally my first Krups steam toy has a use. I noticed this steam tip happens to fit the Gaggia's wand, with a bit of teflon pipe thread tape to stop any leaks.

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I drilled out the hole to enlarge it a bit, and now it steams quicker than the original, and results in effortless microfoam consistently. I don't drink enough milk drinks to get in enough practise with the three holed tip, and this tip eliminates the need for further practise.

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I think I've now brought this machine up to its best possible performance, and I'd love to have a go at a side by side comparison with an Elektra Microcasa or Olympia Cremina, unfortunately, I don't know anybody with either.

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Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by cannonfodder on Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:21 pm

Nice. Your machine runs a lower pressure than mine did. My Factory ran about .8-.9 bar. Your pressure looks to be exactly where I run my modified machine at, then I up the heat to 242F (1 bar) for steaming.

I ended up plugging one of the three holes on my steam. Once I did that microfoam was easy. I wonder if my two hole stock tip from my Isomac would fit. I think the steam tube is smaller on my factory.

When I worked on my machine, I laid it on the steam wand side just to avoid putting pressure on the glass and gauge.
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Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by Hogfire on Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:12 pm

Cheers eh! I still envy the wood accessories look though. That'll come in due time. Yeah, I just adjusted the pressurestat to fluctuate between .5 and what you see in the photo. I don't really notice a problem with steaming at this setting, but then again I've never tried steaming more than a few ounces of milk at a time, so the enlarged hole may exhaust the steam reserve for larger quantities.

I should have stated that "I find this machine now up to the best possible performance for me." After my first try with the three hole tip, I plugged up one hole and found it much better. But I guess I'm just a one hole steam tip kinda guy. I can direct the steam path much better and get more aggressive whirlpool action going now. If your Isomac uses the same size tip as my Expobar did, it's not going to fit. It's way larger.

Ugh, wish I would've thought about that before I got started replacing the piston. Oh well, not too much damage done, and now I feel like I know this machine intimately. The sight glass portion is even simpler than I imagined. Oddly enough, it was such a pain to get the piston in with the new gaskets, but despite the fit being very tight, the pulling action is much easier and smoother.

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in these machines, WLL has them listed in their refurbished section for $449.00. They are new, clearance items, not refurbished, and that's cheaper than a new Europiccola. I was looking around for a wedding present for my friends, but I just don't think they would take to the lever like I have. I think an electric pump is more their style.

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Taking off plastic sight glass cover

Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by shark15994 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:05 am

Hogfire - I see you had to change out your sight glass. How did you get the plastic cover off? I have some grungy water coating the sight glass, and want to take off the plastic cover to clean in there.

Thanks,

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Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by A2chromepeacock on Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:03 am

shark15994 wrote:How did you get the plastic cover off? I have some grungy water coating the sight glass, and want to take off the plastic cover to clean in there.


Hi Shark, I have a Millenium La Pavoni, but very often the parts are identical. Look at your metal "lugs" that attach the top and bottom of the sight glass assembly to the boiler body.

There are two slotted cut-outs in the lugs (the top lug has a forward-facing cutout, the bottom lug's is rear-facing. Into the cut-outs nest little ears on the plastic sight glass cover.

By gently inserting a flat-head screwdriver and prying outward, you can get the plastic to bend away from the lug enough to slide it upward and off. This is tricky--I've chipped a plastic ear before but it still holds fine. If memory serves, it's enough to just pry out one or the other of the ears, and then the whole thing will slide up or down, releasing the other plastic ear. I always pry away the lower (rear-facing, less visible) ear. Replacement is simpler; just nest the front or back side in, and then snap the cover on flush.

My larger concern for you, though, is why you are accumulating condensation inside the sight glass cover. Typically this points to a leak from the sight glass-to-lug seals, or from the lug-to-boiler connections. Once you get the sight glass cover off and cleaned up, have a close look during heating and operation to see if there is leaking of water or steam from either of the two spots.

Another way that you can get steam underneath the sightglass is if water drips down onto the base of the machine, where the boiler meets the machine base. It will boil away during machine heating and the steam will coat the inside of the sightglass. The origin of the drips has been talked about before, http://www.home-barista.com/forums/pavoni-europiccola-drips-water-when-heating-up-normal-t4125.html, as coming from either the steam knob assembly, or from the pressure release valve (the latter of which has the condensation collection tube pointed toward the steam tray, but it seems that frequently the tip of the tube doesn't sit over the steam tray, so drops sizzle at the base of the boiler instead.
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Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by cai42 on Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:18 pm

Greetings,

My Factory is running at one bar and WLL said this is the way they send them out. Is one bar too high? I don't use the steam function.

Thanks,

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What was the piston part # or link?

Link to "Gaggia Factory/La Pavoni mods and a broken sight glass"by mmarkovich on Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:48 pm

Hey all,

What was the part # for the piston? That actually sounds like a decent mod...

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