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Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by mattwells on Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:24 pm

I have now been through my pound of coffee from CCC and thought (with a little prompting from Dan) that I would write up my responses as part of the 1,000,000 message views countdown contest.

As my reward, I chose the Toscano 2005. The website describes it as: "A wonderful espresso roasted and blended in the Italian caffe dolce or "sweet coffee" tradition. Sweet and mild, with notes of caramel, hazelnut, and dark chocolate." It is a blend of: "Brazil Fazenda Ipanema "Dulce" ° Sulawesi Kalossi ° Sumatra Aceh."

My caveat to this review is that my palate is not as refined as some, although more refined than others.

About my tastes: I tend to like a sweeter espresso blend (although I am looking at trying SO's in the near future), which this promises to be. I will be trying it as straight espresso, americano, and in a latte, although my inability to properly foam milk will definitely effect that. My wife drinks americanos and lattes and I will try to gauge her reaction as well.

I have been having trouble getting nice microfoam, so I will probably try to stay away from the milk drinks for my evaluation on taste.

Notes:
I really liked this blend. Although I did not get notes of 'hazelnut' you could definitely taste caramel upon first hitting the mouth and then a dark chocolate flavor that lingered on the palate. It is not an overly-complex blend, but is very pleasant for what it is: sweet espresso.

As a straight espresso I liked it best, although it took me a while to get to the right brew temp for it. I found that it liked to be a little cooler than many of the other blends I have tried. Once the temp was right, it took most of the bitter out of the front end of the sip and any bitter that was left was quickly overtaken by other flavors. I tried a few different extraction times and liked it better as a longer pull (28-35 seconds I think) when I could get the grind to hit there, it seemed perfect.

As an americano it was still very good. I have to let my americanos cool before drinking, but I still enjoyed it. My wife did not think it was as good as some of the others we had tried, but could not remember a blend she liked more, so she enjoyed it as well.

In a latte, well...with steamed milk, my wife really liked it. I don't think she would care what was in her latte though as long as warm milk was included. I thought it was okay, but the poorly foamed milk had me too distracted to make a judgement.

As a side note, this blend was the nail in the coffin on the 'should I upgrade my grinder' question. I really needed micro adjustment for it. I ended up putting the Rossi about halfway in between two notches to get a decent pour. I had two shots that were extremely good and they were 29 sec. and 33 sec. On the notch above, I had a blonde gusher and on the notch below I didn't choke the machine out, but you were looking at a minute for 1.5 ounces. It was hell, but worth it when it worked right. Now I have to decide which infinitely adjustable grinder I would like.

My .02, take it with a grain of salt, YMMV, etc.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:15 pm

I too have received the first two coffees from CCC.

Last week was the Espresso Toscano 2005 which is about gone (and I was sick several days and had no coffee). This is everything that you have read here and elsewhere. Absolutely excellent. I have been enjoying this nice light Northern Italian style roast as a straight espresso, in Cafe Americanos (my beverage of choice) and several macchiatos. This is my personal preference for style and roast at the moment. The Toscano has also been pretty forgiving.

This week is the Ethiopia Yirgacheffe Ambessa which arrived last night. Yirgacheffe is my favorite SO coffee. I've dabbled a little in SO espressos and for right now, this one is a little too wild/bright for my palate as an espresso, but perhaps after some rest it will calm down. I've pulled two so far, one last night and one tonight, and I am not dialed in on the grind yet. A little too fine last night, and a little too coarse tonight. I sipped each as espresso and then diluted down to an Americano. Nice floral and citrus and really enjoyed it after dilution with a dab of honey. I will have to take this one into work and try in on the superautomatic. I've found several SO's that I enjoy as an espresso in the superautomatic, that are just too crazy from my Silvia at home (for my current palate at least).

I want to add a few comments... first I've had some good conversation with MarkO at CCC via PMs. Secondly, the packaging is marvelous. The shipping box alone is a thing of beauty, nice size/shape/construction and a very sharp print on the box. The coffee bags are plastic and foil-lined paper bags with a valve, and a nice logo sticker and description on the bag. No roast date on the bag, but I am going to assume it is roasted and shipped on the same or next day. This week's shipment included a nice two page color print from the Origins newsletter describing the coffee and a trip to Yirgacheffe... nice touch.

Thank you Mark and Counter Culture Coffee (and, of course, HB as well). It's going to be a great summer.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by MarkO on Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:06 am

Hey Amigos,

Great to know that beans are arriving safely and you're enjoying the contest booty.

jesawdy -- I'm a little concerned that you didn't see a roast date on the bag. Just to make double sure, if you still have the bag, would you mind checking the very bottom (in the fold)? Your coffee was roasted and shipped on the same day and we have a STRICT policy to indicate so on every bag. Just want to make sure.

On a side note about Toscano, expertly pulled shots of Toscano by DC-based murky coffee provided my first introduction to CCC, and that caramely sweet, lingering taste will always bring back fond memories. When I was visiting there last weekend, Ryan Goodrow and I pulled lots of shots of the Yirg Ambessa. You're right -- a wild one! Once Ryan (an INFINITELY better barista than me) dialed it in, he got more sweetness out of it than we expected, resulting in a flavor not unlike Lemonheads candy.

And you're right, I'm learning more and more about how much difference the grind can make. It's part of why pulling that one great shot is so rewarding -- so many precise steps must be well executed in the proper sequence to create cup quality. And truly, those steps begin on the farm, carry through picking, milling, exporting, storing, roasting, packing, etc. until it arrives on your doorstep. Then it's all you!

PM me anytime with special requests regarding your winnings. The latest is on the way.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:18 am

MarkO wrote:I'm a little concerned that you didn't see a roast date on the bag. Just to make double sure, if you still have the bag, would you mind checking the very bottom (in the fold)? Your coffee was roasted and shipped on the same day and we have a STRICT policy to indicate so on every bag. Just want to make sure.


I will have to look more closely then, I was anticipating a stamp or sticker near the label. I'll let you know.

UPDATE - Yes indeed, both bags have a roasted on date stamped on the bottom of the bag at the fold.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by MarkO on Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:55 pm

J-

Cool, thanks for checking.

Hot tip: The brand new crop of Mexico Pluma La Trinidad, or 'La Trini' for short, just hit the roasters. We'll officially open web sales on Monday 6/19. This classic coffee has serious chocolate with a nice body. I've cupped it the last three days and this new crop is really winning me over. I'd like to hear what some H-B's think of this coffee as an SOS. Just something to think about as you decide on your next bag. And of course, I'm always happy to surprise you.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:31 pm

OK, give me another week with this Yirgacheffe, and I will try the 'La Trini' next. I'll probably be ready for the Toscano or similar espresso blend after that.

Okay, more notes on the Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Ambessa:

Since my last post, I had a chance to have a small press pot and another double espresso. The presspot was very good and very complex. I kept thinking to myself that this cup reminded me more of the experience of drinking a tea rather than a coffee (if that makes any sense).

Just now, I managed a great pull of the Ambessa. 16.5g in a LM ridgeless double basket, 2 oz. in 25 sec. The basket was not heaping, so I am glad I took the time to measure the weight of the beans. I am using a PID controlled Silvia set at 228.5F, which with a foam cup and a frothing thermometer I am measuring 200F to the PF (no PF attached) and about 195-196F to the cup (PF attached, no coffee with either). Okay, it was lemony for the first few sips, but not sour, smooth no bitterness as the cup progressed and less lemony. The very last sip had gotten cold (as I cruised the HB forums) and was in fact sour at this point. Found the whole thing enjoyable and look forward to some more espressos from this SO. The roasted date was 6/12, so it is 5 days out now. I will use the Ambessa all next week and see how it fares in other espresso drinks.

I have been finishing up the Toscano (and my other espresso beans that I had before winning the contest) , and I probably have one double left of the Toscano.... that'll be gone later today.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by PeterG on Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:43 pm

Okay, more notes on the Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Ambessa: ......I kept thinking to myself that this cup reminded me more of the experience of drinking a tea rather than a coffee (if that makes any sense).


Great observation. The tea-like characteristic is one of the most commonly observed, yet little talked-about, characteristics of the majestic Yirgacheffe.

I think it is what tasters call a "fantasia" flavor: the lemongrass notes, along with the jasmine fragrance, combine with the slightly tannic body of the coffee to create a very tealike experience.

Well done, and I'm glad you liked it.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:12 pm

Earlier I reported on my first two shipments of my Free Summer of coffee from Counter Culture Coffee in Durham, NC. Below are my more recent experiences.

Shipment # 3

Organic Mexico Pluma - La Trinidad
From the famous Pluma region in Oaxoca, Mexico comes this wonderful, Fair-Trade, organic, shade-grown coffee. Our relationship with the La Trinidad coopeative growing group allows us access to the very limited production of this coffee. A lush and velvety bosy support notes of chocolate and cherry - a perfect example of one of the most famous coffee styles in the world. Easy to drink and accessible, perfect for all day sipping.

Okay, this one I did not get to have much as an espresso, I enjoyed most of this bag from a drip pot while on vacation with a less than stellar grinder. It was my experience that milk or cream really made this coffee pop! By adding a little half and half to this coffee, the sweetness was GREATLY accentuated. There was a lot more sweetness than the milk would possibly add. Upon my return from my drip pot bound vacation, I enjoyed the rest of this coffee in cappuccinos. Let me say here that this was an excellent coffee for cappuccinos. Again, very, very sweet with the addition of the steamed milk. You would have sworn that sugar or syrup had been added. If you like cappas, check this one out.

Shipment # 4

Counter Culture Coffee Espresso T-shirt
Who doesn't need a nice espresso shirt? The Counter Culture espresso logo in orange on a black shirt. T-shirt is a great quality Hanes Beefy-T. If you'd like a nice coffee related T-shirt, check them out.

Shipment # 5

Espresso Aficionado
Roasted in the classic Northern Italian style, Espresso Aficionado creates a sweet, complex espresso experience. Delicate, with a long, soft aftertaste, this blend is perfect as a straight shot or in a classic Italian cappuccino. Aptly named, this coffee is a favorite among old-schoolers and well-traveled home baristas.

I of course want to try all the espresso blends. This one has been used mostly as straight espressos and Americanos, with an occasional milk drink. As a straight espresso, this one has a little chocolate, a little red wine and some spice. It is good, but I would say that I prefer the Espresso Toscano (which will be revisited).

Shipment # 6

Spreading the love a little bit. Had MarkO send a bag of the Espresso Toscano 2005 to my brother in Ohio. I am awaiting his comments.

More later.

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by cannonfodder on Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:44 pm

jesawdy wrote:Spreading the love a little bit. Had MarkO send a bag of the Espresso Toscano 2005 to my brother in Ohio. I am awaiting his comments.

-Jeff


Ohio, where in Ohio?

When the tamper road show makes its way to me in Dayton, I would love to have a couple of other people put hands on them for an opinion, but I know NO one local that has ever made an espresso. You/He/She/It would get a chance to fondle several hundred dollars worth of tampers and pull shots in my Isomac, Faema and Gaggia lever machine if interested.
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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:41 pm

cannonfodder wrote:Ohio, where in Ohio?


He is in Columbus. Wheter he could get away for a day or not may be the question. He is in his last year of vet school (clinicals) at Ohio State University. I'll send you his contact info in a PM.
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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by Nick on Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:18 am

jesawdy wrote:Spreading the love a little bit. Had MarkO send a bag of the Espresso Toscano 2005 to my brother in Ohio. I am awaiting his comments.

When? It might be Toscano 2006 now. 8)
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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:24 pm

Nick wrote:When? It might be Toscano 2006 now. 8)


I will have to inquire... it shipped last week. My first Toscano was a 2005... the website is now ambiguous of a year.
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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:22 pm

Shipment #7

Espresso La Forza

In the South of Italy, especially in the city of Naples, caffe forte or "strong coffee," is the local favorite. Coffees selected for their intensity are roasted to a deep chestnut color, coaxing smoky and bittersweet flavors from the beans. Those who favor rich, Seattle-style espresso will fall in love with Espresso La Forza.

As I said before, I wanted to try all the CCC espresso blends. This is the third and last espresso blend that CCC offers. This one has been used mostly as straight espressos and Americanos, and maybe 3 small cappas. It is very aptly named, as in describing it "strong" and/or "heavy" would be how I would have to describe it.

What I would not describe it is as, however, is "dark." I am not a roaster, so my experience here is limited, but the beans are not roasted until dark nor oily. Dark espresso blends that I have seen before (and to be clear, CCC does not say it is a dark roast, as they say "chestnut" in color, and that is what I received) have been black and completely covered in oil. The Espresso La Forza roast I received has just a little bit of oil. I guess I presumed this would be a dark roast, so that was what I expected to receive. Also, I've gotten in the habit of weighing out 18 grams of a new coffee with a measured volume scoop when I try a new coffee. The "dark" roasts I have had before have been significantly lower density... this one is not. Right in line with Toscano and other lighter roasts.

Well, let's just say this one beats the pants off those "black and oily beans". Very tasty. As I said, a bit heavy in flavor. "Smoky" and "bittersweet"? Yes, that too. I would recommend you give this one a shot if you haven't already. I wouldn't make it my personal daily drink, but to change it up once and awhile, this one would be fun.

Well, just had a small cappa... somehow I let myself get down to only enough beans for a double tomorrow AM. The horror!

Until next time...

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jrtatl on Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:16 pm

Espresso La Forza is easily in my "top three" for straight shots. I would drink it as my everyday shot if I could afford to. :oops:

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Link to "Counter Culture Coffee - Free Summer experiences"by jesawdy on Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:57 pm

Okay... about time I wrap up this thread...

MarkO and I wrapped up my free summer back in October. Here is what we finished with:


Shipment #8

Ethiopian Harrar

The coffee from Illili Daraartu once again sings with the fruity blueberry note that only the greatest coffees from Harrar possess. Accompanied by intoxicating aromas of clove, wine, pastry, and spices along with a perfect dark-chocolate finish, this coffee is a wonderful example of the exotic, ancient Harrar sundried coffee style.

I struggled with this coffee as an espresso. It was good as a coffee, but as an SO espresso, I found it very harsh. I have since seen recommendations to updose and use higher temps on Harrars to get blueberries. It left me with an impression of being good for a blend but not as a SO espresso. Other experiences?

Shipment #'s 9, 10, 11 and 12

In an effort to wrap it up, I got the following and the DVD that covers some of the 2005 SERBC. The DVD was fun and believe ot or not showed a quick snippet of a barista that used to work at the local shop here in Black Mountain, NC, even mentioning Black Mountain in the clip.

Espresso 'Aida' 2006
All El Salvador Santa Ana

Finca Kilimanjaro peaberry
Finca Los Alpes peaberry
Finca Mauritania peaberry
Finca Mauritania 2006
Cerro La Rana pulped natural
murky coffee's Nicholas Cho developed this espresso blend specifically to win the South East Regional Barista Competition, held September 22-24, 2006. An all-Salvadoran blend, it pulls extremely bright with fruit-juice sweetness reminiscent of red licorice that carries through a honeysuckle mouth feel and an unconventionally clean finish. It was developed in part as a tribute to Aida Battle, a renowned and passionate Salvadoran coffee producer. True coffee passion is expressed in the act of preparing or appreciating coffee as a drink, but that passion must also celebrate the whole journey from the seed to the cup.

This is the Espresso blend that Nick Cho used in winning the SERBC. Because of the cost, this one counted as two shipments. See my comments here.

Espresso Toscano 2006
Brazil Fazenda Ipanema "Dulce" ° Sumatra Lintong ° Sumatra Aceh Gayo
A wonderful espresso roasted and blended in the caffe dolce or "sweet coffee" tradition of Central Italy. Sweet and mild, with notes of caramel, hazelnut, and dark chocolate, Toscano has built quite a following of professional Baristas and home espresso enthusiasts alike

Well, I wanted to revisit the Toscano.... and it was just as good if not better the second time. I will be coming back to this one again. Have since found several shops in the area that use this blend.

In the midst of my free summer, I also traveled to the Charlotte NC Counter Culture space to attend the beginner's espresso course. This was a lot of fun. If you live near a roaster or shop that offers such things as labs, classes, cuppings, or a chance to play on the big commercial machine, you owe it to yourself to give it a try.
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