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An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists

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Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by espressme on Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:02 pm

Who doesn't want a $250 Autotamper?
Here is a photo of a remaindered juicer. "TJMAX" and "Marshall's" seem to have them for about $17 US. Similar ones are also available on FleaBay for similar price or ^higher^+ shipping. They are surprisingly well made, with bar stock not tube, and seem to be plated. They surely should serve as a press for anything up to 50# pressure.
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The inverted funnel unscrews from the solid rack geared shaft.
With the addition of a couple pins through the shaft, a spring with a 0.75" / 3/4ths inch/ 19.06MM inner diameter and 30 pounds initial pressure, and a tamper on a slotted sleeve, "Voila."
For your portafilter: Either a cylinder with an inner diameter the size of the outside of your portafilter with a cut-out for the handle and mounted to the base of the unit or perhaps a machined horizontal shelf that locks to the main vertical shaft like the big boys with a U shape cutout for your portafilter would do.

Materials could be Brass or Aluminum ( easily cleaned in a dry situation,) or Delrin/Nylon 6

Any one wanting to build one can keep this thread alive. Further ideas/sketches/photos are most welcome! I may even try it myself! :lol:

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My attempt

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by ldilts on Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:05 pm

I just bought my stuff at the local hardware store and am starting the project using the juicer. I'll keep you posted on my progress with pictures as I get this going. Do you have any pictures on your project? Lou. ldilts4@msn.com
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Photo of autotamper

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by ldilts on Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:25 pm

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Richard: this is not a real clear photo, I will use a tripod when I post to the Home Barista forum. Hope it is clear enough for you to see what I've done. Cheers Lou
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Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by espressme on Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:59 pm

ldilts wrote:<image>
Richard: this is not a real clear photo, I will use a tripod when I post to the Home Barista forum. Hope it is clear enough for you to see what I've done. Cheers Lou

Thanks Lou,
That seems to be a real inexpensive way to do the job! 8)
Would you tell us how you did it and give your results of brewing with it? How does the spring give feedback to the user? Please post a couple closeups of the parts. You can post more than one photo at a time by adding the URLs open and close end to end for side by side photos.
A closeup of the tamper mechanism would be great!
Thanks for taking an idea and making it real!
sincerely
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Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by starry on Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:02 pm

I'd love to know more about the orange parts. Are they powder-coated metal or are they plastic?
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Supertamper!

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by espressme on Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:45 pm

starry wrote:I'd love to know more about the orange parts. Are they powder-coated metal or are they plastic?

Hello Starry,
The "orange" stuff is powdercoated or Enameled Zamac (diecast zinc.) The rest is plated steel bar stock. These things are surprisingly well made for the knock down price of about $15-$20.
I would expect that every super tamper will be different because of the materials available to the builders. This is the first one I've seen and a nice one too!
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$50.00 homemade autotamper

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by ldilts on Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:09 pm

I have built, using a juice extractor from Amazon.com ($20.00) and the idea from Richard (Espressme) a cheap and effective autotamper using my Solis SL70 (53mm) portafilter.

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The base is plexiglass or acrylic which I obtained from a plastic supplier for free. They had a "cutoff" bin of scrap pieces that I got. I measured using calipers, the outside dimensions of the Solis portafilter, marked the plexiglass and using a bandsaw, cut out the "U" shaped pattern. After drilling a hole for the vertical column, I drilled and tapped a 1/4 20 thread in the back and front of the hole for the vertical column. I then inserted a 1/4 20 thumbscrew and a setscrew so the column would be held by both screws (the thumb screw by itself won't work, you need an additional screw in the front since the the plexiglass platform takes 30 lbs of pressure from the tamper.

I took my commercial tamper apart and in the steel base, tapped a 1/4 20 thread. I also tapped a 1/4 20 thread in the brass male plug. I then took a 1/4 bolt, using a cutoff wheel cut the bolt to about 1/2" length. I screwed the brass plug onto the bolt sticking out of the steel tamper. The brass plug screws into a copper female fitting as seen in the photos. A small section of thick walled brass pipe slips into the female fitting. I drilled and tapped a 8-32 set screw in the copper tube and the female fittings. Be careful when tightening the set screws, use moderate pressure or they will rip the threads out of the brass pipes.

I place the portafilter on the plexiglass platform and adjust the platform where the tamper is just above the portafilter basket. I then tighten the thumb screw and the setscrew. After dosing the portafilter with coffee (for the Solis, I use a 14.6g dose). I then take the handle and press down on the portafilter until the spring bottoms out (It also works when the handle on the juicer is moved where the spring compress 1/2 way). My shots are 28 seconds and I am getting about 2oz per double. The crema is 1/4" thick and sumptuous. I would suggest that some experimentation take place for you to decide what height the platform should be at. You will have to try various heights, pull a shot and see what adjustment on the platform will give you a 2oz shot over a prescribed time...a little trial and error.

The spring at the top of the unit is 1" long. Hardware stores don't sell the springs based on the number of pounds. I bought several, took them home, placed them on my bathroom scale, put a board on top of the spring and pressed down, choosing the spring that gave me about 30 pounds of pressure. Trial and error here too. The top cap on the vertical column was removed and the spring that came with the unit was thrown away. I cut the bolt that holds the top cap on to about 1/4", placed the spring on the vertical column, placed a very large washer over the bolt and screwed everything down.

I have to thank Richard and his original idea that got me going on this project. Sure beats $400.00 for the commercial units!
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Brass pipe

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by ldilts on Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:50 pm

My instructions above mistakenly listed the pipes as brass. They are copper. The only brass piece is the male section that the tamper screws onto.
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A happy autotamp!

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by espressme on Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:48 pm

Hi Lou,
You have done a great job of the construction, photos. and explanation. You have done your tamper with a mechanical action different than I envisioned and...It works!. What matters is in the cup!
Thanks for a great answer to an old problem!
Have a great week!
sincerely
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Another home brew tamper

Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by espressme on Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:02 am

Hi Lou,
You shamed / motivated me into doing one myself! :lol: I had a bit of stuff laying around. There is a threaded shaft through the length of the ram and I can adjust the pressure by a threaded nut at the top inside the acorn cap.When the spring compresses a tiny bit I'm at 30#.
Seems less pressure to the puck than by hand but it is consistent and allows me to adjust my grind better with a good result in the cup. 8) Yes the Rocky says <0 but thats a +5 after zero'ing the burrs
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There is another more accurate method of building a calibrated tamper. It would use a spring loaded ball in a threaded sleeve through/ across the shaft pressing into a groove around the inside of the moving part that surrounds the ram and holds the tamper piston.. Didn't have one in the box..maybe next time! :twisted:
Have fun all!
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Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by TUS172 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:55 am

Hey Guys,
Very impressive and innovative. Not to mention cost efficient. Someday perhaps when I relocate to another home (with a larger counter) I will use your ideas for a press of my own... THanks!
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Link to "An auto- tamper for do it yourself home machinists"by Worldman on Wed May 09, 2007 11:27 am

Well done and "way" cool.

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