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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by HB on Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:42 am

While it may not seem obvious at first, one of the most important selections of your equipment ensemble is the grinder. It's tempting to overlook the coffee grinder and focus on the espresso machine because of its strong visual appeal and numerous options to consider.

Don't fall into this trap. Reducing beans to grinds is the noisier and messier part of the job, but your espresso won't reach its potential unless it's done well and consistently by a top-notch grinder.

Let's review five top espresso grinders: Mazzer Mini, Mazzer Mini E - Type A &B, Cimbali Junior, and the Macap M4.

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by another_jim on Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:55 pm

Here's a datepoint only an idiot can supply. I forgot to turn off my Mini this afternoon. When I got back to it a few hours later, I burnt my hand trying to take the tamper out of the throat (I single dose the beans, and use a tamper to keep them from jumping out while grinding).

I hoped the damage was confined to replacing a thermal link. Instead, after it cooled down, the machine ran as if nothing had happened; I didn't even need to hit a reset button.

Idiot-proof is nice :D
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Cleaning a mazzer

Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by daschles on Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:24 am

I'm a very happy owner of a MM, but I must admit to being terrified of opening it up for a cleaning, worried that I'll never get it back together again in the right way.

How often do you clean yours & how... and is opening up the top to clean the burrs from the inside as daunting a task as I fear it is?
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by framey on Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:47 pm

daschles wrote:How often do you clean yours & how... and is opening up the top to clean the burrs from the inside as daunting a task as I fear it is?

I've only had my Mini E for 3 months but I would think in a domestic environment you would only need to thoroughly clean out the burrs 2 or 3 times a year. I suppose the cleaning frequency would be dictated by a few factors including personal preference. Perhaps if you were cupping or had been using particularly oily beans...

Unfortunately I had my first foreign object drama with my Mini E the other day. I quickly found out that unscrewing the top burr carrier isn't tricky at all.
Make sure you disconnect the power first. To gain access to the burrs simple remove the screw from the grind adjustment collar and then unscrew the top top burr carrier. Your top burr is attached to the adjustment collar and is the easiest of the two to clean. I use a nylon bristled brush. Something like a reasonably stiff toothbrush would be fine. Cleaning the bottom burr can be a little harder, but nothing prohibitive. I find a vacuum cleaner works well to suck most of the loose coffee grounds from around the bottom burr and its housing. You may have a slight build up of coffee oils and fine coffee particles. They combine to form a firm sort of tacky paste. I've successfully removed the majority of the build up with a small flat head screwdriver.
You will notice the top carrier has 3 little platform contact points. Line these up with tensioning springs on the lower burr housing. Be very careful not to cross thread the carriers as you put them back together. You will need to push down with a little pressure at first as the tension springs prevent the threads coming together, then screw them together. Don't forget to replace the screw from the adjustment collar that you removed first up. You will have to find your old grind setting, but that shouldn't be too hard.
I hope I haven't omitted anything important... I'm sure others will offer more comprehensive advice if needed.

I suppose the other option is something like Urnex Grindz Espresso Grinder Cleaner.

I found the adjustment collar had stiffened up a little after the clean out. I may have wiped off the white lubricant found on the carriers...?

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Teme on Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:36 am

Dan,

Did you try the MiniE with your Elektra Microcasa a Leva? Just wondering how the Elektra PF with its fixed (and wide) spouts fits with the MiniE's PF rest...

Also, it would appear from pictures that the 15 degree LM PF that I have for my Andreja might not work too well with the MiniE's PF rest, either?

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by HB on Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:14 am

Teme, you're right that the Mini E's rest works best with a straight-handled portafilter. I used the Rancilio commercial portafilter and it sits nicely level, but even so I usually held the portafilter and rotated it out of habit to improve the distribution. Now why didn't I take any pictures of the various portafilters in the rest?!? As I recall, for the angled La Marzocco, you need to hold it while the basket fills because it's unlevel; you must hold the Microcasa portafilter because the spouts are fixed parts of the bowl casting and widely spaced. An Olympia Cremina or La Pavoni portafilter would probably work better in this regard; Steve borrowed the Mini E for a few weeks and would know for certain.
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Teme on Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:38 pm

I received my MiniE today and I thought that I'd share these pictures. The stock Andreja Premium portafilter on the MiniE's pf rest is not 100% level - it leans ever so slightly towards the handle side of the portafilter...
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The 15 degree La Marzocco portafilter sits well in the MiniE's pf rest and it is level. Note that my LM pf has the plastic grip - I imagine that the slightly chunkier rubber grip would change this slightly and potentially make the PF lean towards the body of the grinder...
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No lever machine portafilter pictures (yet). Sorry.

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by skyryders90 on Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:07 pm

Teme wrote:I received my MiniE today


What do you think of it so far?
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Teme on Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:25 pm

Well, I have my "regular" Mini currently next to it and I did not expect nor have I seen any difference in the grind quality despite the bigger burrs. I have not yet fully dialed in the MiniE but so far I have observed the following:

- the MiniE is a tad faster due to the bigger burrs
- there is no significant difference in the noise level (I have heard claims that the hollow funnel amplifies noise)
- I agree with Dan that the MiniE creates less mess than the dosered Mini
- to make full use of the MiniE's capabilities, one has to dial in the doses to appropriate levels and you will spend a fair bit of coffee in the process
- it is too early to draw any further conclusions as I have only spent a few hours with the MiniE and I need to experiment further and dial in the doses

I will post later on my blog and possibly on a separate thread here on HB.

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Teme on Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:28 am

I posted a bit more on my experience with the MiniE here. One thing that I'd like to add is that even though the LM 15 degree PF seems to sit nicely in the MiniE's PF rest, the slight vibrations of the grinder actually result in the angled PF sliding of the rest during the grind. This is actually not a huge problem as I agree with Dan that it is best to move the portafilter around during the grind to achieve optimal distribution...

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Dogshot on Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:58 pm

I'm considering the stepless Macap M4, but I have never seen one. I would use any grinder sans hopper, which I know is easy with the Mazzer, but rather than assuming that the M4 can be easily operated without the hopper, I thought I would ask...is it? I intend to put the beans directly in the grinder throat and keep them there with a spare tamper. Otherwise I won't be able to put it where I want.

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by HB on Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:21 pm

The throat of the Mini and Macap are the same diameter, which nicely accommodates a 58mm tamper:

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The setting pin locks into holes drilled in the bottom of the metal adjustment collar

I didn't measure the volume, but it appears to be large enough for one or maybe two doubles.
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Theodore on Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:54 pm

Hi Dan.
I have read the following in your article.

HB wrote:Many home barista don't store beans in the hopper; they instead add enough beans for one espresso and run the grinder until it is empty. The efficiency of the doser sweep and the ease of clearing stray grinds from the doser become important in this mode of operation. The Mazzer Mini does as well as the other two with a simple modification; otherwise it leaves behind a thin layer of grinds on the bottom and a smidgen of grinds on the "ledges" of the vane arms.


What is the simple modification of the mini so as to do well as the other two?
I write this, because I am tired to clean the coffee with a brush, from the doser and chute, every time I make a coffee.
If I can not change this, I will sell it to a friend and get the type B mini E.

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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by HB on Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:24 pm

Teme documents the sweep and the inverted cup mods. I documented the brush off for the true neatnik.
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by jesawdy on Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:35 pm

Hello.... OCD? Is that you? :lol:

Holy smokes, Dan... you still set up like this?

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I think you'd politely sip my espresso and pour it down the drain when I wasn't looking, what with my 0.01 grams of errant grinds and all.

I had not seen this brush mod... thanks for the link.
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by Theodore on Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:07 am

jesawdy wrote:Hello.... OCD? Is that you? :lol:

Holy smokes, Dan... you still set up like this?

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From Dan's CG link above

I think you'd politely sip my espresso and pour it down the drain when I wasn't looking, what with my 0.01 grams of errant grinds and all.

I had not seen this brush mod... thanks for the link.


Thank you for the response.
I saw a mod for a Super Jolly, where a guy had removed the whole doser and made a inclined "road" for the coffee out of the chute plus a plastic cover over this.
There were photos as well.
Have you ever seen this mod?
I think he wanted to make a production for this.
Is this possible to make the same for the Mini?
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PS. I found one of these mods.. Look at this. http://www.espressoparts.com/category/03.06.10/
Any suggestions?
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Link to "Feature Spotlight on Espresso Grinders"by HB on Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:53 am

Tim's Super Jolly doserless mod is cheap and effective. I haven't tried to adapt it to the Mini, but it should work in principle.
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