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Postby ccfore on Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:47 pm

Ross Leidy wrote:If your machine is 220v, I just found a 1/2hp 220v new GE motor on ebay for $10 for my rebuild project. The 1/2hp is more than I needed and I might have to use a relay to power it (current motor is 1/4 hp), but it was worth the risk for $10. The seller has 8 more of the same if you want to check it out. Here's the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....&item=130282492769

Best of luck on your project,
Ross

Wow, looks like a great price for that motor. My machine is a 220v so this might be a good buy. I'm not sure what the "normal" hp is for most commercial espresso machines. Thanks for the tip!
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Postby lordfreddy on Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:07 pm

Do a "Carbonator" search on ebay; you will find plenty of low price pump/motor setups. You can often find a 110v/220v GE motor and procon pump combo for as little as $80. Carbonators are used in soda/fountain drink machines, and should be safe to used with your Linea. :D
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Postby Ross Leidy on Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:18 pm

The only problem with most carbonator motors is that they are split-phase motors, which are slower to reach speed and (more importantly) they draw a lot more current than a capacitor-start motor to start up. The extra current has the potential to damage auto-fill and/or auto-dosing circuitry. You can still make it work if you drive the motor through a relay. The ebay auction I referenced didn't indicate capacitor-start, but the hump on the side of the motor is a giveaway.

My 2 group Pasquini has a 1/4 hp, so the 1/2 hp is more than I need, but I'll make it work.

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Postby espressme on Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:38 pm

FWW,
You do want the larger style of .5 Amp 1/3+ hp pump motor not the 4" diameter. They all run the same pump but the larger motor size does it better from a negative lift.
PM me if you are interested the Grindmaster two group I've rescued for parts. It has a 220 1/3rd hp motor and pump. Seeing the above, this is a split phase carbonator combo. No separate overpressure line. The pump does turn by hand and the motor needs the sheet metal mounting base straightened. There are a lot of electrovalves Flow valves and all. and such in it. No Pfs though. It was UPS'd upon. Cheap! You haul. Weighs about 120#
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Postby ccfore on Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:00 pm

Well here is the pump and motor I picked up on Fleabay. I did buy the new 220V GE 1/2 HP motor that Ross bought and mentioned here (thanks) for less than $25. shipped.
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And I bought a Rotoflow pump made in Italy by Fluid-O-Tech instead of Procon as I've heard of some quality issues on some of the more recent Procon motors. This was $61. shipped so the combo was less than $100., hopefully this will work. The only thing I need to get now is a clamp for the pump.
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Postby Ross Leidy on Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:05 pm

The motor is not reversible, but fortunately for both of us, it spins CW which matches our pumps. The motor is not drip-proof, but I'm going to have to remote the motor/pump due to the size of the motor (it's longer than my original motor), so not being drip-proof won't be an issue. Overall, a great bargain.

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Postby espressme on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:11 pm

You guys did well!
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