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Postby EricL on Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:59 pm

Does the VBM Domobar's 16.5" measure to the top of the handles? The real question is under an 18" cupboard height, will espresso cups fit on the cup warmer? Looks like it might be a pretty tight squeeze.
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Postby Randy G. on Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:40 pm

Unless they have changed something, my VBM DS is 16.125" from counter top to top of the warming tray handles.
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Postby stefano65 on Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:49 pm

41 cm total height botttom to handle

with a cup on the recessed cup warming tray( single italian espresso cup)
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Postby EricL on Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:56 pm

That's tight. Leaves about 1 3/4 cm to spare.

Stefano, is 4-5 cm top clearance enought on these machines for proper air flow through the chassis?
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Postby cannonfodder on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:14 am

When I was working on the review for Domobar Super, I had it under a kitchen cabinet. I have a dedicated bar with no overhead but not everyone is that fortunate so as part of the testing, I put machines on the kitchen counter for a couple weeks. It is tight, and personally I would not keep my cups on the warmer. It is just too tight. I kept them in the cupboard above the machine and pulled my cooling flush into the demi before I started preparing my portafilter. That will warm them nicely. You may find that refilling the reservoir is a bit of a pain. I worked out a way to refill it without moving the machine out from under the cupboard.

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cannonfodder wrote:To make room for the Titan Grinder Project, I moved the Super off my test table and to a kitchen cabinet. There is enough room for cups but it is tight.

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My biggest concern was moving the machine from under the cabinets to fill the water reservoir. The feet on the Super are short but stout with stick-on rubber dots to keep the machine from moving around. Unfortunately, they keep the machine from moving around. With the boiler and water reservoir full, you cannot just slide it around, this thing is heavy.

But where there is a will, there is a way. I can remove the cup warmer and use my small thermos to fill the water tank. It takes a few thermoses of water to fill the big reservoir but it sure beats trying to move the machine.

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Postby networkcrasher on Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:30 am

What I did on my VBM was to put some Magic Sliders on the back feet only so I could slightly lift up the front and pull the machine out, spin it 90*, and easily fill it. It worked well for me, and the machine never torqued from putting in the PF since the sliders were only on the back. I initially had them on all 4 feet and the machine would slide all over the place when I put in the PF.
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Postby EricL on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:35 pm

Been thinking too much again :shock:

What kind of effort does it take to move the 60+ lbs of the Domobar with the magic sliders on the back feet?
Seems like a good solution, and that is a huge reservoir. While it's not something you'd do all the time, I have been experiencing a bit of back trouble lately.
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Postby Randy G. on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:51 pm

To eliminate having to move it, how about having the water in a large container (like three gallons) remotely located (like under a cabinet), pressurize it, or use a pump (either hand or electric) and use a long food-safe hose to full the reservoir...?
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Postby networkcrasher on Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:13 pm

EricL wrote:Been thinking too much again :shock:

What kind of effort does it take to move the 60+ lbs of the Domobar with the magic sliders on the back feet?
Seems like a good solution, and that is a huge reservoir. While it's not something you'd do all the time, I have been experiencing a bit of back trouble lately.


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You could easily put the sliders on all 4 feet, but you'd have to brace the machine when locking in the PF. That or just put the sliders under the front feet only when moving the machine. Lifting up the front enough to put the 1/4" high sliders under the feet would require minimal effort. Less effort than dumping the drain tray probably :-)
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Postby erics on Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:49 am

Whoa! Did I hear someone say they needed a pump? A new one? :D
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