Synesso Baskets - group buy!! - Page 6

by **JonR10** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:28 am

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And on a more positive note, here is the "final list" of folks who have already paid.
If you have paid and your name isn't on the list LET ME KNOW!!!

Dan Kehn

Chris Holiday

MDM int'l - McKoffee

Jon Stovall

Jim Matt

John Weiss

Mark Prince

Jeff Green

Neal Tang

Ethan Dole

SWR Scott

Wilson mybs

Bosco Richard

mogogear

Dennis Kalian

JrATL Jeremy

Jasonian

IMA Rob

PSYD

OntheBean brettbenj

Yfsit

G Mackie

John Ermacoff

Carl Menard

Richard Penny

Jeff Sawdy

Tom Prusa

Brian Gammon

Harold Perry

Nim Nam

Darryl Rubin

Tim Brunsen

Michael Paras

M Jamieson (fullsack)

Craig Andrews

Steve Schoon

by **terryz** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:01 am

JonR10 wrote:
terryz wrote:...there's more to the story if you are interested...........

Actually, I would like to know if you can verify that each of those are from the same manufacturer as the ones we're getting.

EDIT (PS) - I hope you realize that it seems to me like you're making a big deal out of this like "sour grapes", and for the life of me I can't fathom why you'd want to negate the effort being made here for the community. I have put in ALOT of work for free to get these folks something they asked for. I have answered over 120 emails in the last 2 days alone about these baskets, plus collecting monies plus contacting Synesso PLUS I have covered all the excess paypal charges on my own. All of this is to provide a contribution to the community.

So where is your "value addded" with these posts Terry? And what is "a layer of transparency"? Transparency doesn't come in layers, it's clear or it's not. And quite frankly you aren't being completely forthcoming or transparent at all, you're using your own part numbers for these products rather than making reference to the actual manufacturers so as to compare apples to apples.

Sorry to seem angry, but your posts seem aimed to diminish what I worked hard to put together and AFAIC it's a personal afront to me. At the very least we have gotten a very good price on these products for these folks, and $5 shipping per order is a deal MOST places can't match. So does it really matter if these are "standard" baskets?

Terry, I like you alot and lord knows I have purchased plenty of stuff from you, and I hope to maintain a positive relationship. I'm just PO'd because of your tone and attitude towards a LARGE effort undertaken for the community's benefit.

Wow,

Jon, this not an attack on you at all. I think I have been clear all the way around. The "layer of transparency" is from another individuals post in this thread, and not my own use of the term.

There is a point to all of the information I have provided, and none of it is directed at you or your efforts, so I'm sorry that you feel that this is the case, Really.

I have commented a number of times with amazement with regards to how much work this effort has taken, and I'm still amazed. Please don't read anything more than that into to it. This is just a text book example of the power of suggestion, and I'm shocked by it.

Don't be PO'd and relax, I know I am. Jon, I have always been there for you when you needed me, and I'm not about to take away from that at this point.

This is about PF baskets and that's all.

by **jesawdy** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:43 am

FWIW, I also, kinda, sorta felt like Terry might be raining on JonR10's parade a bit. But, as I have learned long ago, I know it is all too easy to misinterpret the intention of a post, or the tone of an email, so I just relaxed. Terry, thanks for clearing the air. Jon, thank you for your efforts.

On another note, did Synesso have the needed quantity in stock?

by **mikep** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:56 am

terryz wrote:Please remember that Synesso does not make baskets, so referring to these as Synesso baskets is incorrect and a tad bit misleading.

just as it is misleading to call mz-107A a "Ridgeless La Marzocco Double Portafilter Basket" ?

So for reference I will use our part numbers: mz_107...

Doesn't the mz-107 on espressoparts.com looks more straight-sided than the one in the Synesso pic, or the picture above?

What I'm providing here is fact, while still providing a layer of transparency.

I was sort of hoping that everyone who sells the parts would be able to say who the manufacturer is, and reference a model number from them, like "acasaco xyz-102". I guess it's probably not that easy, though, I can't pretend to know anything about retail operations.

there's more to the story if you are interested...........

Yes please (Paul Harvey reference, right?)! For what it's worth, I hope I haven't come off sounding snarky in this thread, I appreciate the info Terry has contributed.

by **terryz** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:41 am

mikep wrote:just as it is misleading to call mz-107A a "Ridgeless La Marzocco Double Portafilter Basket" ? Wink

Yeah that's the part where I was being snarky

I was once chastised for called that basket what it was and is or whatever............

I think it is kind of interesting about parts and the who makes them thing. I suspect that many folks think GM makes all the parts for the cars they assemble, but the reality is that there will always be sub contractors. Who those sub contractors are will vary for year to year, or even month to month.

In the case of coffee equipment, parts is parts, some are better than others and the quality has a tendancy to vary. Baskets included.

Snarky is good....it get's everyone thinking and doesn't sugar coat the process. I think that an open dialog without a fanboy attitude is more beneficial overall.

There is more to all of this......... I will add to the information as time goes, but right now, I have to go get ready for the Northwest Barista Championship and the Northwest Roaster Guild Meeting, and then Coffeefest! Busy Busy.

by **RapidCoffee** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:42 am

JonR10 wrote:...I have answered over 120 emails in the last 2 days alone about these baskets, plus collecting monies plus contacting Synesso PLUS I have covered all the excess paypal charges on my own. All of this is to provide a contribution to the community.

Jon, you deserve a big THANKS for putting this together. I'd be glad to help defray any excess Paypal charges you have incurred (and I suspect others would too). Just let me know.

EPNW only offers one ridgeless double on their Website, so the Synesso baskets can't both be duplicates. I'm looking forward to giving mine a try!

Thanks again for your time and effort - John

by **jrtatl** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:03 pm

terryz wrote:There is more to all of this......... I will add to the information as time goes,

I will laugh if Terry is Synesso's local wholesaler for baskets, and this entire order ends up going through Terry on its way to Synesso. Is this part of the story?

Terry, I love your store. I've bought a few parts from you over the years (nothing major like a machine), and your staff was always prompt, friendly, and efficient.

Thanks again to Jon for this whole project.

by **JonR10** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:57 pm

RapidCoffee wrote:I'd be glad to help defray any excess Paypal charges you have incurred (and I suspect others would too). Just let me know.

Thanks very much, but I'd rather just keep it as simple as possible, like it is.

All the cool vibes flowing are way more than enough for me! Mark's tamper offer is a super bonus as well....
Plus, I just got off the phone with Synesso and they're sending me a T-shirt!
How cool is THAT!!!!!

OK folks, the order is made.

We spent some money today folks!
All of the paypals cleared this AM (the e-checks took until today).

I'll update again when I get delivery information.

Cheers all,
Jon

by **Psyd** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:47 pm

JonR10 wrote:Plus, I just got off the phone with Synesso and they're sending me a T-shirt!
How cool is THAT!!!!!

To help defray the cost of the Paypal stuff, I volunteer to do my bit.
I'll give you ten bucks for the Synesso T! ; >

No, really, I'd be happy to contribute, too.

by **cafeIKE** on Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:39 pm

cannonfodder wrote:But will a 58mm Reg tamper fit? LM is a crapshoot, some will fit some will not

I've been using the 'synesso' since July and just had Reg Barber make a 58.2mm tamper. Fits all the baskets perfectly. All 3 measured 58.5±0.05mm.


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