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Steam pressure gauge trouble on vibiemme

Postby bruca003 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:37 am

I just finished changing the element and pressurestat on my beloved vbm domobar super. well i just noticed this morning that the temp gauge has traveled all the way clockwise and now is trying to travel past the stop and obviously cannot. any ideas?
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Postby bruca003 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:53 am

I decided to answer my own question. I decided to let out the steam and the gauge quickly traveled the opposite way where it should be. I don't know why these little things bother me but I just want my machine to run perfect.

I guess the following question would be why the gauge traveled so far past 1 bar. The pressurestat now is cutting off the element at 1 bar. Working well :)
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Postby Randy G. on Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:58 am

There could have been water in the capillary line. Removing the line, or loosening it from the boiler end, and then judicious heating to dry the line out could be a solution.
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Postby erics on Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:21 pm

any ideas?

Yes. Completely remove the pressure sensing line leading to the pstat diaphragm chamber and inspect for scale. Soak the line in hot descaling solution for an hour or so and rinse well.

I doubt that replacement pstats are adjusted to the pressure you want - maybe you got lucky but I would not treat this event as a fluke. Is this a Parker pressurestat in your "old" VBM?
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Postby bruca003 on Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:05 am

The pressure gauge goes into the 2 bar range and sometimes past it at every initial start up. Once I let the steam out or hot water the gauge quickly retracts. As I start pulling shots and working the machine I do notice the large sirai replacement pressurestat cutting out at around 1 bar. If I leave machine alone the temp does wander into the 1.3 bar range.
The old pressure stat is a round black cylinder with a yellow top. I did not notice any name brand on it.
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Postby erics on Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:50 am

Some pics of the insides of your machine would be helpful - the majority of forum readers are familiar with the VBM Domobar from this model - http://www.home-barista.com/vibiemme-domobar-super-review.html onwards.

The fact that you initially "overwound" your boiler pressure gage puts little faith in any subsequent reading. That little gage needle is a pressfit onto the rotating shaft and it would seem as though you have lessened that fit, to say the least. In addition, the boiler's safety valve should have opened long before the pressure gage overextended itself.

From your description of initial warmup, it seems as though the vacuum breaker valve is NOT operating. During the initial 5-10 minutes of warmup, you should notice a water/steam mixture escaping from the valve and then a quick silence.

Now, I'm just guessing - Your original pstat was a CEME model from your description. These are not typically wired to control a heating element directly but rather through an electro-mechanical relay either within the machine's control box or external to it. This relay that is being controlled by the pstat may be tired, very tired and may have been the cause of your wild pressure fluctuations. Your new Sirai pstat is capable of direct control and could easily be wired to do this by a good repair shop.
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