ShureShot timers for La Marzocco, Synesso, Slayer etc - Page 3

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#21: Post by TomC (original poster) »

Shife wrote:I may have missed this. Is there a way to purchase this in the US? I didn't see any links to purchase on the blog.
he set up an Amazon store, but you can also just contact him directly.

I apologize for not posting a video last night, the NBA Finals and other things kept me busy.
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#22: Post by Ellejaycafe replying to TomC »


Didn't I see a video on your Instagram a while back?
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#23: Post by TomC (original poster) »

Ellejaycafe wrote:Didn't I see a video on your Instagram a while back?
Yes, I posted a very simple one.






I want to get one showing the flush programmed in and also the automatic group cleaning mode.
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#24: Post by ShelbiRyan »

Hey Tom, wondering if you have received your adjustable pre-infusion kit to pair with your ShureShot? I'm, extremely interested in pairing this with a Linea Mini if that's at all possible.

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#25: Post by michael »

Or a linea single group 8)

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#26: Post by CrabRangoon »

ShelbiRyan wrote:Hey Tom, wondering if you have received your adjustable pre-infusion kit to pair with your ShureShot? I'm, extremely interested in pairing this with a Linea Mini if that's at all possible.
Both Ace (& Rick Bond as well) seems to be designing something smaller for Minis, as the box & display is a bit large for the scaled down home unit. Both have the developments shown on their IG updates, good place to keep watch.
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#27: Post by ShelbiRyan replying to CrabRangoon »

Awesome, thanks for the heads up. I'll have to check that out

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#28: Post by sdalcorn »

AssafL wrote: Michael - All the functionality of the Sureshot timer (the Ace Engineering device) is available on the 3d5 (3d5 stands for 3 group, 5 function & dosatori - dose control) which is built in the GS/3 so no reason to get a Sureshot for a GS/3.
Not correct - the 3D5 is used in all La Marzocco Linea Classics and is by far ACE's biggest seller. The 3D5 simply does not provide 4 staged timers and 3 individually programmable outputs at all of 6 timed points of extraction. The 3D5 also has no built in cleaning cycle or auto group head pre-flush or post flush.
Programming is also easier on a 3d5 since all the settings are properly labeled on the 2 line text display - and none of this F2 F0 stuff in a 2 seven segment display...
The ShureShot is simple to program. I dare say easier than a 3D5 (not that we are comparing apples with apples). If you can set the clock in your car, you can program the ShureShot.

The ShureShot is just as easily added to a GS/3 as it is a Linea

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#29: Post by AssafL »

3d5 does have a cleaning cycle (at least the latest firmware versions). I don't know what a pre-flush nor a post flush are - but my assumption being a group flush isn't that necessary on a saturated group. I will also contend that any such automation really deserves a set of sensors (i.e. sense when the portafilter is removed and then do a post flush - not while the puck is still there). BTW - this latter point is the main drwaback of the automated modes of the Acaia scales...

Don't know what points are in extraction and what points are supposed to do. I added simple line level and flow lever based control but it is not part of the timer (also needed some plumbing work to add the needle and control valves). Adding valving is easy plumbers work, and adding a timer - be it a purpose specific or an industrial TDR is not more difficult.

Last point - 3d5 is not hard to program. Not at the least. I do prefer full text to codes (even with a cheat sheet for the codes). I can work with both - but I prefer clear text. Personal preference - as I tend to misplace cheatsheets.
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#30: Post by sdalcorn »

I don't know what a pre-flush nor a post flush are - but my assumption being a group flush isn't that necessary on a saturated group. I will also contend that any such automation really deserves a set of sensors (i.e. sense when the portafilter is removed and then do a post flush - not while the puck is still there).
I think you made my points for me - you don't know what the ShureShots can or can not do - yet you post as if you do know. You do know what happens when you assume... Virtually every barista worth his salt does in fact pre-flush on a saturated group and most will post flush. The auto flush has been a huge hit and and can happen whilst the barista is away grinding, dosing and tamping - saving valuable seconds and steps each coffee - and this adds up in a busy environment. And - no. It does not need any "set of sensors" - just some lateral thinking. If you'd actually used a ShureShot on a daily basis - or ever actually seen one, then you may in fact have slightly different opinions and advice to others.