LUCCA M58 by Quick Mill, reviews and owners thread - Page 26

#251: Post by **Shife** » April 19th, 2016, 10:16 am

Welcome to the internet.

#252: Post by **thecatch83** » April 19th, 2016, 10:37 am

My favorite color is blue....and I still don't have my Lucca

#253: Post by **clivecoffee** » April 20th, 2016, 7:45 pm

Hi guys! I hope to send a personal email to all LUCCA backorders tomorrow, but also wanted to let you know that the shipment has been picked up from Italy and is tentatively expected to arrive in Portland on Friday 4/22. Then it will need to clear customs and FDA inspections before they're delivered to Clive, probably by middle of next week.

Chat soon,
@BP

April 20th, 2016, 10:12 pm

Thanks for the update.

Do you have an estimate of how long they will be at Clive before shipping out (presumably in the order in which they were ordered)?

#255: Post by **clivecoffee** » April 22nd, 2016, 2:10 pm

Hi Matt,

We will be benching and shipping machines in the order they were placed, and we hope that all M58 back orders are shipped within two weeks of arriving at Clive.

Thanks!
@BP

April 22nd, 2016, 2:34 pm

Thanks Ben!

#257: Post by **thecatch83** » April 22nd, 2016, 4:52 pm

Thanks for updating....what's another two weeks after waiting five months

#258: Post by **thecatch83** » April 26th, 2016, 4:49 pm

CC shows the Lucca in stock and the pre order price is gone and shows full retail. Hopefully, those of you who have been waiting since January will get your oders sent any day now!

#259: Post by **mania** » April 27th, 2016, 3:04 am

Shife wrote:These machines are pretty much all the same bucket of basic parts. If someone is intimidated by looking at it, it may be a good idea to turn the work over to someone else. We are dealing with electricity, water, and pressure. I would not advise anyone who is apprehensive or lacking in technical skills to work on the internals of any of these machines.

Profitec routes their harness in such a way as to minimize its visual impact. The wires are still there. They still need to be dealt with. If your brain can't see past a wire harness and picture how the components are mounted and plumbed, you probably shouldn't be tinkering in there. I'm not saying this to be a jerk; I'm saying this because there is very real risk of injury or damage caused by an unskilled individual attempting a repair on any of these machines.

I am also not saying this to be a jerk but having seen pictures of this machine inside I disagree

I build point to point hand wired vacuum tube amplifiers as well as various other things. I take a lot of care in routing
etc for many reasons.
I totally understand where your coming from by saying behind the M58 harness lay simple components etc

But what I see when I look at something like the wiring harness on this M58 machine is a company that did not give a %#$
about it period. Yes it is not critical...maybe.... if wires do not lay on something hot & melt etc.

Yes they chose to lay their electrical relays etc on the floor that could flood etc. rather than mounting them on a vertical
splash protected sheet like some others...but yes this is a nice machine & at the end of the day it brews good espresso period.
But IMO it reflects badly on the company especially as this is being advertised as an upgraded brand X machine etc.

But sloppy workmanship should not be sloughed off onto the buyer by claiming if the buyer is intimidated
by sloppy work then send it to someone to fix etc.

Same as discounting Profitec's clean routing as a "reduction of visual impact"

.....
It is in fact quality workmanship & this reflects on a company favorably IMO

Again just my personal feelings & I see this machine obviously runs well. It was something I was considering ...
until I saw the under the hood pictures & for the reasons stated above am not considering it now.

#260: Post by **Shife** » April 27th, 2016, 7:38 am

I suppose you should probably cross every machine Quick Mill has ever built off of your list, regardless of their track record then. While you're on the shoddy workmanship crusade, perhaps you can stop by the Pro 700 thread and sort out their problems with leaks and a wonky PID.

Any machine is going to have positives and negatives. This isn't my first machine and after a year of ownership I am still happy with my purchase. I'm sure I could say the same about the Pro 700 or Izzo III. Apart from a small piece of debris stuck in a fill valve early on, I have had zero issues with my machine. The wiring harness in no way hindered me from diagnosing and correcting that issue. I stand by my statment that if an individual is intimidated after pulling the cover off of any of these machines, they should not be working on it.