Looking for La Cimbali Junior M21 Owner's Manual

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yossarian
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Equipment: La Cimbali M21 Junior S/1, La Cimbali Junior grinder
Location: Pretoria, South Africa

Postby yossarian » May 27, 2008, 7:01 pm

Hello home baristi...

Long-time lurker, new poster. I have finally managed to get a decent espresso set-up at home, with a new La Cimbali M21 Junior S/1 paired with a lightly used La Cimbali Junior grinder. Alas, the vendor (here in Turkey) did not have a manual for the machine(s), either electronic .pdf or printed.

Would there be anyone out there that can help with a .pdf copy of either manual? I greatly appreciate your assistance.

I have had the machines for a week now, and all of the years of anticipation had me prepared to pull a shot 'by the numbers.' Alas, I must confess that I have yet to experience any epiphanies, with most of my shots coming out sour and metallic. Granted, it is a struggle to find decent espresso beans, and I have taken to pulling my shots with what was available from the local Starbucks. Not being happy with their blend, I have tried blending some of their other roasted beans to achieve something more palatable, but with no success so far.

As a result, I am starting to get concerned about the pressure-stat setting. I live in a rural village, far from the the vendor, so I can not rely on them to adjust the machine for me, in the event that the pressure (and hence, temperature) might be a little low. I have seen some other posts along this line on the site, but would like to have a manual in hand before I get carried away with adjustments (and I need to put a FedEx order in for some decent beans...)

Cheers,

Diarmuid

jthiessen8
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Postby jthiessen8 » Jun 23, 2008, 9:06 pm

I don't know if you ever came across the LC Junior manual. I just got it from a local supplier. Give me your email and I will send it. Its actually two pdf's: one is the installation manual, the other is the user manual.

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Postby HB » Jun 24, 2008, 4:15 pm

Thanks Jeremy! For the convenience of future readers of this thread, I've uploaded the PDFs to HB's server:

La Cimbali Junior M21 owner's manual
La Cimbali Junior M21 installation manual

Scanning the documents, there's a lot of identical content. The main difference is the installation manual covers programming starting on page 19.
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Postby torretta » Jun 28, 2008, 1:58 am

are there service manuals for these cimbali espresso machine that one could purchase? sorta like the service manuals for autos...

yossarian
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Joined: May 13, 2008, 2:41 pm
Real Name: Diarmuid O'Donovan
Equipment: La Cimbali M21 Junior S/1, La Cimbali Junior grinder
Location: Pretoria, South Africa

Postby yossarian » Jun 29, 2008, 7:15 am

jthiessen8 wrote:I don't know if you ever came across the LC Junior manual. I just got it from a local supplier. Give me your email and I will send it. Its actually two pdf's: one is the installation manual, the other is the user manual.

Thanks very much, Jeremy. I appreciate your help.

I am still coming to grips with the machine; I just received some lovely espresso from The Coffee Collective in Copenhagen, and have been using that as a decent espresso from which I can calibrate my shot preparation techniques and routine. Alas, I have yet to see any sort of consistency, with the majority of my shots coming out sour.

Here is my routine:
Warm the machine for 90 minutes after waking up.
Pull a big flush (120ml)
After 3 minutes, pull 90ml
After 1 minute, pull 60ml
After 1 minute, pull 60 ml
Dry the portafilter, grind, dose, distribute (Stockfleth), tamp
Pull 60-90ml (until steam stops)
Wait 15 seconds (for the water in the group to heat up again)
Pull the shot

If I am using the machine during the day, and it has been left on for a while;
Pull 60ml
After 1 minute, pull 60 ml,
Grind, dose, distribute, tamp
Pull 60-90ml (until steam stops)
Wait 15 seconds
Pull the shot.

If anyone has any advice on how to tweak this routine, it would be greatly appreciated. As it stands, it s rather difficult to get decent espresso beans here in Turkey (with the post from Copenhagen getting lost once, and the replacement order taking over 10 days to arrive.)

Cheers,

Diarmuid

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Postby Pale Rider » Oct 26, 2009, 8:47 pm

I would echo the request for an operating manual for the La Cimbali Junior Grinder. I seem to have misplaced mine when I moved, and it is surprisingly difficult to locate any online resources.
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