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La Marzocco Linea 1 AV Rebuild Project

Postby Lurkerjohnny on Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:01 am

Greetings everyone, I am a long-time lurker that has finally decided to come out of hiding. I really enjoy reading about the different projects that are posted here and would like to share my project as well.

I have managed to find a 1 group Linea AV that needs to be rebuilt. I think it is 11 years old.


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You can see that there is some minor rust on the framing.

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The group looks pretty nasty. Check out the water level via the sight glass :).

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The metal around the hot water valve got bent during shipping.
Right now I am going to completely disassemble this machine. I am excited to get started and nervous to see if there is any damage. Here are the steps that I am planning to take.

1. Complete disassembly.
2. Degreasing then descaling of all internal parts.
3. Ordering of all replacement parts.
4. Polishing of all steel panels and frame.
5. Reassembly
6. Complete rewiring.

All comments and helpful hints are welcome.
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Postby Lurkerjohnny on Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:31 am

Ok, the disassembly continues....
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You can see the wiring on the flowmeter is showing through.

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I'm slowly getting there...

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Drain box

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It's very important to use the right tools. Here you can see the sightglass in my vicegrip (bench) which is about to be opened using a custom-made tool (piece of wood with 2 allen wrenches sticking out of it. Don't laugh it worked!

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Inside of the sight glass. Looks like Aveeno moisturizing hand lotion. Not that I moisturize my hands or anything.

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I really, really don't want to mess with these rusty bayonet bolts. I sprayed them with some WD-40 and they came off without a problem. Whew!
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Postby luca on Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:33 am

Congratulations on finding a single-group Linea!

I'm not really any sort of espresso technician, but I have a few links for you that might be of interest.

First up, if I were in your shoes, the first thing that I would do is to get very familiar with Paul Pratt's excellent Espresso Restorations webpage, presuming that you're not already aware of it that is. Paul frequents these boards and I'm sure that he will chime in to help you out. He has a great pictorial essay on refurbishing a 1992 EE single group Linea and a slightly less comprehensive essay on a 2001 single group AV Linea, as well as a tonne of other relevant and interesting reading material.

If you are in the US of A, espressoparts seems to be the big parts supplier, although I'm sure that there are alternate sources and I have no idea how everyone's prices work out. What is nice about that site is that as well as having a LM parts page, they have off-the-shelf PID kits and rebuild kits. Presumably there's a premium placed on the "make it easy" factor, but they might be worthwhile looking into.

Finally, I'm sure that you have read that the flowmeter in the AV machine means that you have to flush a fair bit of water through the group to heat up all of the tubing. You might like to fit the new group cap to it, which has an integrated flowmeter and solenoid that eliminates this problem. I don't think that you can fit the new group cap is only made to fit the new welded groups, but you might want to talk to Terry at espressoparts - I think that he has worked out how to do it.

Good luck,

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Postby cannonfodder on Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:02 pm

That is the old bolt on group. If you unbolt it you have to get a special sealant from LM and follow a specific procedure when reattaching it and static pressure test it. Second hand knowledge, I have never rebuilt a LM.
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Postby gscace on Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:21 pm

cannonfodder wrote:That is the old bolt on group. If you unbolt it you have to get a special sealant from LM and follow a specific procedure when reattaching it and static pressure test it. Second hand knowledge, I have never rebuilt a LM.


Paul Pratt and Barry Jarrett are good guys to talk to about this project.
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Postby Lurkerjohnny on Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:47 pm

Thanks for all the tips guys. I have read through Paul's different projects (thanks for providing it Paul!) and will use what advice he has posted.

Terry was helpful in answering an email pertaining to the old style group / gasket / sealant. If he has figured out a way to do the group cap kit on the old style group I would definitely be interested, but any modifications will have to be at a later time. I am still amazed that I managed to talk my wife into letting me buy this, I will hold off on the extra goodies for now...

Update: I have managed to take apart 99% of the machine. The three parts I had/have the hardest time with are the following:

1. Banjo tube was locked to the banjo bolt. Any attempt at turning the bolt threatened the integrity of the tube. I managed to get it off finally by securing the tube at the base with a locking pliers to keep it from turning.

2. The group head diffuser was pretty tight. I managed to remove it using an adjustable pin spanner.

3. Heating element in the brew boiler. Still stuck.

So right now the heating element is all that I have to remove. I will try heating the base with a torch, then using a wrench on it. I may have to get a chain oil filter wrench such as the one Paul has on his website http://www.espresso-restorations.com/Toptips.html.
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Postby jesawdy on Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:28 pm

Lurkerjohnny wrote:3. Heating element in the brew boiler. Still stuck.

I believe TerryZ recently posted to try tightening the element first and then loosen it. IIRC, it worked for the other poster (different machine).

Ahh, here it is...

terryz wrote:If the element will not loosen up, try tightening first and then loosen.

EDIT - I just clicked through to Paul's element removal tip... they must get really stuck. I need to keep an eye out for a pair of those vise-grips. I have had limited success (in similar applications) with the rubber strap-style wrenches, the metal chain would be much better.

Also wanted to add that I have seen seemingly very good prices on parts via Espresso Liquidators.
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Postby erics on Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:42 pm

On your heating element, try an ADJUSTABLE impact wrench at your local garage and try to use a 6 point socket. Set the adjuster to the lowest possible setting and increase slowly until you are delivering small "impacts" to the hex nut.
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Postby Paul_Pratt on Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:50 am

What a great machine, looks like there was a bit of steam leakage inside the machine. The heating element is a doddle compared with the diffusor and the sight glass, the latter 2 are really tough. Just keep trying all the tricks like heat, tighten it up them untighten etc....

The 11 year old date seems right, they used that spring wire boiler strap on the steam boiler pop thermostat for a short period of time about 10-11 years ago.

I'd be tempted to seek out a new all steel boiler, but luckily for you you have the old old style which is far more reliable than the welded stud system that would have been introduced shortly after your machine was made. Your boiler isn't easy to rebuild (if you happen to remove the group) but the integrity of the steel should be good.

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Postby Lurkerjohnny on Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:18 am

Thanks for the tips Jeff and Eric. I managed to get the element off! Talk about a load off my chest. It took a vice grip, torch and a 1 7/16 deep socket on a 3/4 drive breaker bar. Sorry, no pictures as I am at work and didn't bring my camera.

Your boiler isn't easy to rebuild (if you happen to remove the group) but the integrity of the steel should be good.

Paul


I am dreading that step of the process. I have removed the group and the retaining bracket in the boiler. I was debating about leaving the group on the boiler, but decided not to sell my project short. I figure that 11 year old gasket has got to be near the end of its lifespan, not to mention after I soak it in citric acid.

Time for step two!

1. Complete disassembly. DONE!
2. Degreasing then descaling of all internal parts.
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