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Grouphead thermometer for HX espresso machine

Postby giffsa on Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:11 pm

Hi all

I am looking for an appropriate thermometer to measure water temperature in the grouphead of a La San Marco HX machine. Does anyone have any experience with these machine, or any recommendations for appropriate thermometers?

To be clear, I'm not looking at PID'ing - just measuring water temp in the grouphead.

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Postby Beezer on Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:54 pm

Does that machine have an E-61 group? If so, you can use one of Eric's thermometer adaptors. If not, you might have to put something together yourself and attach it to a cheap PID or digital thermometer.
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Postby giffsa on Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:59 pm

no, i'm fairly sure it is not an e-61 grouphead.
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Postby HB on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:12 pm

giffsa wrote:To be clear, I'm not looking at PID'ing - just measuring water temp in the grouphead.

How about this low tech way to measure brew temperature?
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Postby giffsa on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:26 pm

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Postby HB on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:29 pm

Absolutely, assuming the basket is 58mm and you don't mind the cash outlay. You can read more here.
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Postby shadowfax on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:57 pm

Sam,

If you're handy at all, you could find a screw that attaches to the grouphead along the brewpath (most have one to cover the hole they drill to make the brew path), and order a thermocouple and compression fitting that will fit in this space. It's often a fairly trivial, inexpensive operation--a cheap PID readout is about $40, a thermocouple another $20-40, and the compression fitting ought not be over $10-20.

Note that with the Scace device, you need not only the $275 thermofilter, but you'll also need a Fluke or other thermocouple reading device. It's certainly the best thing out there at simulating shots, but if you're looking for something to use all the time to help you flush more consistently and constantly monitor brew temperature (with a guessed offset), you may find it irritating, and obviously rather expensive for something you may find you don't want.
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Postby erics on Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:58 pm

Does your grouphead look like this, either with/without the preinfusion chamber? What is the exact model number of your LSM machine?
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Postby giffsa on Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:49 pm

I'm really not sure what the grouphead profile looks like - the whole thing is encased so I can't see it.

The machine is a 95-Series Sprint E.
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Postby erics on Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:10 pm

Well, I suppose you could break out the wrenches and screwdrivers and have a look here:

http://www.iberital.com/iberital/CAFE/SAN%20MARCO.pdf

The installation of a thermometer would be difficult. I suggest you follow the advice that Nicholas provided a couple of posts up.
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