The top shelf came with the white "sticky film" that protects the stainless from scratches, but once I peeled mine away it was very nasty looking on the stainless. I'll call in tomorrow and see if there's something I can do to make it look better.

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Anyone know if there should be a plug in the end of the PF handle?

Now, I have a question. Being as my only *real* experience has been on Silvia (Don't ask about previous machines), my cleaning regimen has changed a bit with the manual lever. It doesn't seem like as much water comes out as Silvia when there's no pressure. I don't know if that's a feature of the pre-infusion, or just my eyes deceiving me. This is interesting - I feel a bit like a newbie again

Mark (et.al.), you might want to check out the photos off this website . . . good looking machine(s)!

zin1953 wrote:Mark (et.al.), you might want to check out the photos off this website . . . good looking machine(s)!

Interesting. In the "DOMOBAR Dualboiler mit PID 03" photo, it doesn't have the Sirai pressurestat like mine does?

I can't answer the question, Mark, but I can tell you that it is not uncommon for the "same" machine to be built differently for different export markets. Keep in mind, too, that the German machine is 220v; here in the US, it's a 110 model. Perhaps that explains it; perhaps not. Ask Jim @ 1st-Line . . . .

zin1953 wrote:I can't answer the question, Mark, but I can tell you that it is not uncommon for the "same" machine to be built differently for different export markets. Keep in mind, too, that the German machine is 220v; here in the US, it's a 110 model. Perhaps that explains it; perhaps not. Ask Jim @ 1st-Line . . . .

Gotcha. Thanks Jason. I was thinking along the same lines, but given my limited knowledge, I thought it would require a pressurestat in conjunction with the PID. Then again, I just know my machine has one and was mostly curious to see if their pressurestat was bent at an angle like mine. It seems that machine just uses the PID to control the boiler instead of the combination.

networkcrasher wrote:Interesting. In the "DOMOBAR Dualboiler mit PID 03" photo, it doesn't have the Sirai pressurestat like mine does?

In one of the photos on that site, labeled "Bild 8 von 50", you can see the pressurestat: a small CIEME or Jaeger model. Why would you need a big, bulky Sirai if you have a PID?

Mind you the site shows two double boiler models: one vibration pump and water tank, the other rotary pump and plumb in.

networkcrasher wrote:The only odd thing I've noticed so far is the steam boiler is pre-set to 1.5bar and after pulling a shot, the boiler pressure stays where it was during the shot, even though I noted a discharge from the 3way upon moving the lever back down. If I do a flush after that, the pressure in the gauge seems to drop back to 0.

You have two boilers. The steam boiler has no connection with the 3way discharge.
The pump and brew boiler are connected to the group. The discharge is to release pressure on top of the puck so as you don't get sprayed when you take the portafilter out.
The steam boiler is connected to the steam valve and wand.

My question would be, as there is a pressurestat, if it is only for the steam boiler and why would you take a big, expensive Sirai when steam temperature might not be as critical as espresso temperature. Does the non-PID version have two pressurestats then, one for the steam boiler (Sirai?) and the other for the brew boiler?
Another interesting thing is how the brew boiler maintains group temperature. There must be a loop from the brew boiler into the group and back. But does it include a HX?


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Peter
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