If not already equipped, a pair of these would be . . . nice.



They are ABOUT $150 each - available from here: http://www.faemasource.com/ and allow you to adjust the machine for the length of the line out the door.

eric needham wrote:Paul,

Thanks! I wanted to ask you, but I always assume your too busy.

I used the scace and temp is 212 at idle and goes down too 200 after about 20 seconds which is a low as it gets. That is with the boiler set just over 1bar. I can wait to try the restrictors. are you running the boiler at 1 bar?

I am curious, do you use your speedster, lambro, or E-61 the most?

Eric

I have a 1 group E61 now which is set around 1 bar. I can't quite remember how it ran but I may dig it out next week. But I try and use small restrictors so that they need to be heated up rather than cooled down to pull a shot.

The valve that Eric kindly pictured is the new solution I mentioned before. Very nice it is too. I think Kees VDW uses them as well on his HX machines.

I suppose my regular machine is a 1 group Linea Paddle, but really I swap them out every few weeks and move onto the next one. I do like to use my machines rather than let them gather dust. Saying that though I have several machines I restored, tested with a Scace and then packed them away without running coffee through them.

Paul

WOW,
I'm starstruck here!! That is one awesome looking machine, and I'm absolutely positive that this photo doesn't do this baby any justice!! OK, this is my first post here at HB..I've been feeling my way around and found some very good advice from Levergirl and Cannonfodder(older post) for my leaky Gaggia Achille. Anyway, about your machine....reminds me of one of those super high performance show cars where the guy chrome plates all of the underbody parts and then sets a mirror on the floor so the passers-by can see under the car while gaping at either the fantastic chrome job or the amount of outlay it took to get it that way.
Looking at your tray I can see the reflection of the groups and portafilters just shining like gangbusters. Ok, so I guess you could say I kinda like your machine and all that it stands for, and I don't even know anything much about anything yet because I'm a newbie....but I can sure recognize beauty when I see it! Good luck dialing her in(tweaking). I'm working very hard to get acceptable shots from my Achille....not as easy as one might think

erics wrote:If not already equipped, a pair of these would be . . . nice.

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They are ABOUT $150 each - available from here: http://www.faemasource.com/ and allow you to adjust the machine for the length of the line out the door.

Erics: I have just bought a 1968 single group machine and want to install restrictors. I am right to guess this is a variable replacement for them? Also will it fit straight into a vintage e61? Can you tell me any thing about them or point me in the right direction?

Kind regards,
jack

I have just bought a 1968 single group machine and want to install restrictors

It may already have a restrictor in the "top tube" at the grouphead. These were dimensioned at 2.0 and 3.0 mm ID or anything in between if a 2.0 mm restrictor were reamed out a touch.

Have you taken the machine apart? A top view of the internals would help.

I have a few pics- here is a top view- and a close up of what I assume is the thermosyphon tube you were talking about- however I am not sure? It doesn't look like the tube with valve you have pictured above would replace my part? As you can see the machine is original -mercury p-stat and lead weight pressure release valve.

Do I remove that L shaped tube and check inside it to see if restrictors are installed (or not)?

I will be firing the machine up in a few days- I am just trying to arrange some kind of water bottle feed system for it. It all looks 100% restored externally- and very nicely as well:

Eric/Jack,

Thanks for helping me to learn about my E-61!

A couple of questions;

What is the, as Paul Pratt said "mystery valve"


I am thinking it controls the rate of flow for the auto fill? perhaps so it does not cool of the boiler too quickly?

this is the top of my machine, not sure if it has the restrictors, I have been able to achieve good shot temps with flush technique.



Thanks, Eric N

Is that a gas valve?

it's odd- your boiler looks older vintage than mine (68)- but my under the drip tray parts look older than yours.... there are gas fittings in mine:

I believe it originally was the steam control for the cup warmer.

Here is a drawing of the 2-group boiler area showing the adjustable thermosyphon valves. I'm ALMOST certain that a single group machine could be fitted with one of these. While it may seem that both pipes are the same, I would need to have more Faema knowledge than the minuscule I have.



I do know that the restrictors I have discussed in previous posts are available from the Faema site I listed and those guys are both nice and smart. As you can imagine, restrictors are very inexpensive whereas the valve is not.