drdna wrote:I personally remain quite unimpressed with the so-called Third Wave. I see these small cafes more like baby Starbucks, and it's not so much that everything has gone wrong with Starbuck's than there is a fundamental issue with society that allows things to move in that direction if conditions are right. What I mean is that Starbuck's could just as easily be called Blue Bottle.
Could you describe for me what you mean by this? I guess I can understand that, having never been to Blue Bottle, if you think coffee is 100% social. I've been to more than my fair share of 3rd wave shops where the coffee is excellent and the patronage seem to appreciate the fact that they can take up a 4 person table all by themselves, leeching free wireless and isolating themselves with their books and laptops. Starbucks is actually less afflicted by this, in my experience, because their wireless isn't free. In fact, that was one aspect of coffee houses that Amy's film brought up that I really can't say I connect with--Cafés that truly foster community. I usually chat with baristas/café owners when I go into shops and they aren't terribly busy, and I'd like to think that at least a few of them are my friends--so to speak. I've certainly gone to coffee shop parties with lots of conversation and fun--Latté art throwdowns, barista smackdowns, and the like. But, average 3rd wave café, random time during the day, probably just a bunch of people, mostly alone getting a coffee on break/on the way to work/etc. Just like Starbucks or any other bottom-of-the-barrel coffee shop.
On the other hand, if you're talking about coffee quality, then I am just bewildered. Sure I've been to 3rd Wave shops with poor barista QC, and experienced poor drinks, or just lackluster drinks. That doesn't begin to compare to Starbucks, where what they're selling really has little or no relation to the name that they call it. I don't think you can even get a 6 oz. drink in Starbucks anymore. Everything is stale, candied, and in a to go cup. That has about as much to do with
real espresso as a wine cooler has to do with a good table wine. If you think that top-tier 3rd wave shops are on the level of Starbucks as far as drink quality, well, I am just confused.
... or are you talking about something else? Brand loyalty? Personally, I think it's great. I love Elektras, Mazzers, and Intelligentsia coffee. I like their logos. I think they're attractive, distinctive, and I associate them with the highest quality. But I wouldn't touch
this with a ten foot pole, and if Intelligentsia started selling me crap coffee when I clicked the order button, I'd buy somewhere else. There's nothing inherently wrong with brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is the holy grail for a business. Your brand gets you recognized. Like how you recognize your wife, whom you are loyal to (one hopes)--You met her, you liked her, you loved her, and you promised to love her for the rest of your life. But even a carte blanche vow like that has its limits: when you come home to find her making love to your best friend from high school, well, you'd be a fool to just suck it up like nothing happened. Same with any brand you like--when a company takes its brand down the toilet, you find a new brand, right? Not true of a lot of people, sadly... Still doesn't make the 3rd wave "basically the same" as Starbucks, does it?