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Postby Jay_Raz on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:17 pm

I'm new to coffee and wish to start understanding the differences amongst countries, regions, types of processing, varietals, etc. I'm looking for advice on which 3 or 4 origin coffees I should start out with. I'm traveling up to Pittsburgh tomorrow or Wednesday so I am able to visit any of the roasters that are out of the city.

I am taking Counter Culture's Comparative Cupping Lab later in the month. Will also look around for any cuppings going on in NJ while I'm there.

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Postby another_jim on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:27 pm

Start with three: one Indonesian: Sumatra or Sulawesi; one East African: Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania or Ethiopia; one Central American or Colombian. That's pretty much the traditional way to begin, since these coffees are usually as different as can be, and pretty much span the range of tastes.
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Postby the_trystero on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:51 pm

Jay_Raz wrote:I'm new to coffee and wish to start understanding the differences amongst countries, regions, types of processing, varietals, etc. I'm looking for advice on which 3 or 4 origin coffees I should start out with. I'm traveling up to Pittsburgh tomorrow or Wednesday so I am able to visit any of the roasters that are out of the city.

I am taking Counter Culture's Comparative Cupping Lab later in the month. Will also look around for any cuppings going on in NJ while I'm there.

Thank you


As Jim mentioned, try those three different regions. The first three SO green beans I bought were from Ethiopia, Sulawesi, and Costa Rica.

Also, since it sounds like you'll be buying roasted beans, be sure to buy from roasters who are doing light roasts of whatever you purchase. The darker the roast the less you'll experience the different origin flavors.
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Postby Jay_Raz on Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:52 pm

Yes I will be buying roasted beans. I do have a question about buying roasted beans onsite instead of off the internet. How should roasted beans be properly stored/shelved within the store? The few places that I have seen, the beans were in wall bins or in baskets lined with plastic, covered by a plastic lid. What can I look for within the store to tell if they selling a quality product?

Some of the roasters I found in Pittsburgh:

http://www.coffeetree.com
http://www.laprima.com
http://nicholascoffee.net
http://bigdogcoffee.net
http://www.tazzadoro.net
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Postby the_trystero on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:47 pm

Can't comment too much on the storage method since every place I've been to in California has just had their bags on regular shelving.

But another thing to consider is roast date. Preferably you'd get beans from a couple of different regions from one roaster, possibly all roasted on the same day. But no matter what make sure you know when the beans were roasted, hopefully because of roast dates on the bags.
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Postby another_jim on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:12 pm

If you want to practice cupping as done by professionals, in order to understand the differences between regions and raw coffees, you need to buy your roasted coffee from Terroir, since they are the only ones I know of who roast all their brewing coffees light enough to fall within the industry standard of cupping roasts.

If you want to to taste the standard roast level used by competent roasters, get a medium-dark Indonesian (Full City), a medium East African (city plus or light full city), and medium light Colombian or Central (City roast).

The first alternative is best if you are thinking of getting into home roasting or taking a cupping coarse; the second is best if you want to get an idea what roasts from the top roasters will taste like.

Order from one of the top US roasters via the web to get exemplary coffees. I do not know any of the roasters you list, they may produce exemplary coffees, but they do not have national reputations as far as a I know.
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Postby Jay_Raz on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:32 pm

I'm not going to be getting into home roasting anytime soon. I continue to read up on roasting as to understand the process and how it effects the cup.

I am really impressed and inspired by how deeply folks dive into the roasting and extraction process. It was seeing this first hand at the SCAA Event that helped inspire me to dedicate coffee as my profession. The forums, blogs, and online videos have also greatly encouraged my enthusiasm and curiosity. My original goal was that of opening a specialty coffee business. I still have that goal and will continue to work towards it, but it has taken a back seat to becoming a knowledgeable and appreciative coffee professional.

Are there any other roasters out there that roast to the standard level for cupping? Was considering combing the two methods you had mentioned. Spend some time cupping the coffees from Terroir and then get the same *or close to same* three coffees at the roast levels mentioned. Kind of educational experience for both regional and roasts differences. Terroir is out of their Sumatra till later this month.


I found the thread below to be very helpful:

'Cupping Roast' Standard Profile?
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