Counter Culture Coffee vs. Starbucks marketing strategy - Page 2

by **shadowfax** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:47 pm

IIRC it was an issue with not paying sales/franchise tax, more than $400k of it.

by **Psyd** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:49 pm

shadowfax wrote:IIRC it was an issue with not paying sales/franchise tax, more than $400k of it.

That was the explanation for the DC shop, and as I understand it, it was a decimal place mistake by the tax folk, but don't tell me that this was the same issue with the Arlington shop?

by **shadowfax** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:48 pm

Ah, I haven't read more than that fuzzy detail. I'd love to read more about it, but haven't seen anything else. Decimal place error sounds... typical of our fine government.

http://users.rcn.com/erics/ · by **erics** on Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:34 am

I'd love to read more about it . . .

Well, you can always let Google be your friend for a few minutes

but that's kinda "water under the bridge". The location which Murky occupied in DC has been completely revamped and is now inhabited by Peregrine Espresso - http://peregrineespresso.com/ . One of the owners has worked for both Murky and Counter Culture and is a 1st class Barista. The Murky Coffee in Virginia is in the process of opening up a new venture in the Chinatown section of DC to be known as Wrecking Ball Coffee - http://pqliving.com/?p=5107

by **shadowfax** on Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:30 am

Ah, sorry Eric, I meant about why Nick closed Murky down and switched. I know about Wrecking Ball from seeing photos of it under construction on Flickr, and indeed Googling. Reading about the former topic... Hard to tell what's bloggers/reporters jumping to conclusions and what's true.

Edit: Sorry, posted that from my iPhone; I got a chance to read the links you sent and followed this link from there; explained most of my confusion, from a reporter who actually talked to Nick. Thanks Eric.

by **wideawake** on Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:47 am

I think Peregrine is nice. However, I do wish that they would serve multiple-sizes of drinks (with the appropriate milk/espresso ratios). Also, I'm not sure that I like Aficionado as much as Toscano or some other coffees that I have tried. Of course, variety is always welcome, but is Wrecking Ball going to be using Toscano also? I know that they were getting shipments of PT's into Murky a few months before closing and were talking about retailing it.

by **Nick** on Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:37 am

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