Acme Coffee's Road Dog Blend
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Anyone use this bean? With a fresh roast I am finding the espresso to be 'ashy'. 16grams extracted to 30 grams over 30sec. 200degrees linea mini. Tried extracting to a smaller volume but the taste was worse. Tried extracting more but got bitterer. (Is that a word?)
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Sorry, I can't help you with their Road Dog but I've pulled many pounds of their other beans; blends and SOs. Motor City is the darkest I generally like and that gets pulled via EspressoForge...or else I need to turn down the boiler pressure/temp on my levers; and Road Dog is a darker roast than Motor City.
I really like their Bali and Powerglide with my levers! I tried their Guatemala but it was too dark for my palate; I couldn't, like you state with Road Dog, get rid of the burnt/ashy taste using my levers. I ran out of beans before I was able to get the water temp low enough from either my Export or LI.
If you can lower your brew temp to maybe 190-195 you might find it tastes...less dark .
I really like their Bali and Powerglide with my levers! I tried their Guatemala but it was too dark for my palate; I couldn't, like you state with Road Dog, get rid of the burnt/ashy taste using my levers. I ran out of beans before I was able to get the water temp low enough from either my Export or LI.
If you can lower your brew temp to maybe 190-195 you might find it tastes...less dark .
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Things I would try:
Lower Pressure
Lower Temperature
Higher Temperature (sometimes bitter turns chocolately).
Pull a short shot (22ish seconds with an overdosed basket. This is not the same as a low volume shot). You already seem to be pulling a longer shot, which is what I was going to suggest.
Try a longer preinfusion
Lower Pressure
Lower Temperature
Higher Temperature (sometimes bitter turns chocolately).
Pull a short shot (22ish seconds with an overdosed basket. This is not the same as a low volume shot). You already seem to be pulling a longer shot, which is what I was going to suggest.
Try a longer preinfusion
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thank you for the suggestions. As a comparison, I brewed some in a french press, 22 grams in 12 oz water 80 degreesC for 3 minutes coarse grind - deliciously smooth and chocolatey with a sumatra-ish smoky hint. So I know it's not the beans.
I'll try the suggestions. In general, is ashiness the sign of overextraction? The crema looked good without dark flecks or a ring so I didnt think it was overextracted but it sure tasted that way. Maybe this bean needs a real gentle touch - lower temp for sure. Unfortunately, my linea mini does not have an easy way to lower pressure. May I'll reduce the dose.
I'll try the suggestions. In general, is ashiness the sign of overextraction? The crema looked good without dark flecks or a ring so I didnt think it was overextracted but it sure tasted that way. Maybe this bean needs a real gentle touch - lower temp for sure. Unfortunately, my linea mini does not have an easy way to lower pressure. May I'll reduce the dose.
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Well ashy is typical as a roast defect but you already ruled that out. Astringency (dryness) is over extraction though. That's why I recommended a higher temperature as sometimes you can get a bitter chocolate.
I had your problem with redbird (not as dark but FC+) and the solution was to extract more, haha. Not to be confused with pulling a short ristretto shot, which actually extracts less. That being said i'm not tasting your extractions so take with a grain of salt.
On the other end, French Press brews are typically under extracted. First thing I would try is a short ristretto shot as this will reduce extraction.
I had your problem with redbird (not as dark but FC+) and the solution was to extract more, haha. Not to be confused with pulling a short ristretto shot, which actually extracts less. That being said i'm not tasting your extractions so take with a grain of salt.
On the other end, French Press brews are typically under extracted. First thing I would try is a short ristretto shot as this will reduce extraction.