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Coffee preparation techniques besides espresso like pourover.
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#21: Post by Shife »

It looks amazing. Absolutely amazing, and I'm not usually concerned with aesthetics. Heck my espresso grinder resembles an electrical transformer and my brew grinder is so hideous my wife has made me put it in the broom closet.

If it was an established product I might be more inclined to spend $$$ on what is little more than an Aeropress. I feel like I have to draw the line somewhere and I suppose the shipping costs are that line. But dang... I keep looking at it and thinking it neeeeeds to be in my office.

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#22: Post by Boldjava »

It has gone live. $195 USD +$65 shipping, $250.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tr ... fee-brewer
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#23: Post by Boldjava replying to Boldjava »

As a dear friend reminded me, never do math publicly. $260 shipped <grins>.
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#24: Post by day replying to Boldjava »

Hehe perhaps i should call up and place an order via the phone ;)
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#25: Post by trinity_coffee »

SlowRain wrote:Has anyone heard of the Trinity ONE? It looks like an uber-Aeropress, but with added features. I'm just hoping it isn't crazy expensive (which it probably will be). Apparently, it's going to be on Kickstarter soon.

http://www.trinitycoffee.co/

https://www.facebook.com/trinitycoffeeco

http://thedirectory.coffee/blog/trinity ... fee-brewer

Hi SlowRain

Thanks a lot for sharing this, and starting this post! I am glad to see people out there are keen to discuss my new product!

Will read through and respond to people's queries ASAP!

Cheers
Mark

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#26: Post by trinity_coffee »

Bob_McBob wrote:Looks like a $300 Aeropress that can't be used inverted.
Hi Bob_McBob

Thanks for checking out the Trinity ONE.

I have noticed a lot of people have drawn comparisons to the Aeropress, and for obvious reasons. However, a couple of features which you might not yet be aware of:
- I have designed a flow control feature on the 'filter head'. This will allow you to brew/steep for as long as you want without any drips (hence 'inverted' not required). When ready, you turn the tap and then put the cylinder in.
- The cylinder itself is weighted, and presses by itself. This has a few advantages, one being the ability to create two cups exactly the same, the other is in the cafe setting, as it is less labour intensive for staff. For people who are keen to adjust pressure settings, you can change the O-Ring hardness which are on the end cap that clips onto the cylinder.

Some of the above information is included on my Kickstarter page, but if you happen to have any further queries/issues, just get in touch anytime!

Cheers
Mark

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#27: Post by trinity_coffee »

SpromoSapiens wrote:Beat me by a minute! That's exactly what i was going to say. From AUD to USD, more like $200-250 at the cheapest. Nice pourover stand, nice press, nice Aussie timber and German metal. Won't travel, won't invert, certainly won't change the world. I wonder if aero competitions will let it compete.

I do like it as a trend, though. Since day 1 I've wished there was a non-plastic aeropress, even if just for home use. But not for $200.

Hi SpromoSapiens

Thanks for checking out the Trinity ONE!

Yes the price point is obviously not the Aeropress range and not going to be for everyone, however it was due to my own searching for a 'step up' in brewing device quality that I started on the Trinity ONE journey! I have made my aim to deliver on quality, and will be certainly aiming to get the balance right between a reasonable price too. Good to read of your feedback on what you think is reasonable pricing.

My personal view is I like the cheaper products for their convenience and ability to travel, however I wanted to design something which is more of an 'appliance' with the goal of leaving out on the bench at home and something that can draw a bit of attention in a cafe, rather than being put away.

I have also included the ability to do pour over and a style of cold brew (which is not cold drip but more an 'iced-coffee').

Regarding inverted method, this isn't necessary on the Trinity ONE, because it has a flow control feature so you can brew/steep as long as you want and then turn the tap on to pour when ready to insert the cylinder.

Regarding travel, I am hoping to design a leather case in the future so you can also travel with it. However, still need to get over the line on Kickstarter first!!

Details and video are up on Kickstarter.

Please get in touch anytime if you have any questions!

Cheers
Mark

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#28: Post by trinity_coffee »

SpromoSapiens wrote:That's a good point. It does appear to alleviate the need to invert. Yet while it's main boon is the control over plunge pressure, it doesn't address the need for different pressures for finer grinds or doses (or filters in need of cleaning), or larger amounts of water, within a preferred plunge time. Of course users can exert more pressure on the plunger if they want, and it would be less effort. I'm just saying it's not such a revolution in consistency. I don't see how it can set itself down in 45 seconds regardless of grind, dose, ratio, and choice of filter, unless you follow the machine's prescribed recipe.
Hi again SpromoSapiens

The weighted cylinder will obviously vary press times based on different grind settings and doses. The 45 second you read in the article was based on the testing which I have done for a standard grind and paper filter, with a medium O-Ring hardness. You are right that you can apply additional manual pressure, but the way I have aimed to target different press settings is by changing the O-Ring hardness. Lighter O-Ring hardness creates a faster press time, and harder is slower.

The idea behind consistency, is that you can create two identical cups of coffee, provided you don't change the grind, o-ring or filter. This is different to the Aeropress because of the manual application, and therefore no two cups will be identical. Obviously a skilled user can get pretty close though!

Any other queries, please shoot!

Cheers
Mark

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#29: Post by trinity_coffee »

boxerboxer wrote:My take on it thus far is that "Trinity One is Here" and "Kickstarter May 1st!" can't both be right, and that the guy who came up with it looks a bit mad in photos.
Hi boxerboxer

Thanks for sharing your conclusions about me.

"Trinity ONE is Here" which is noted on my website, coincided with the launch of the Trinity ONE in Brisbane last month (March). It was also the day I first shared the image of the Trinity ONE publicly.

"Kickstarter May 1st" coincides with my launch on Kickstarter, on May the 1st.

I'll keep working on my beard so I don't look so 'mad'. haha.

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Mark

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#30: Post by trinity_coffee »

day wrote:If espro couldnt get a simple travel press through the manufacturing line in time -and still have not delivered right?-to meet kick starter predictions, especially when combined with the many other con job and ludicrous coffee related kick starters that have failed, i think its clear that kickstarter for large manufactured products is not reasonable as a general approach. Maybe small limited custom items, but For all we know the various aspects of this design are already patented and the entire thing will flop, not to mention the potentially ver long process of getting this thing of the ground even if it all works out. Looks awesome, but the hb community should probably slow down ks enthusiasm in general:)
Hi day

Thanks for sharing on this post.

I understand a lot of Kickstarter projects have failed, and know of a few friends who are still waiting for their product!!

A few pointers for my own campaign. I have teamed up with an Industrial Designer business that has extensive experience in scaling products into production, and have a great track record of bringing products to the market. The other clincher that I reckon kills projects is not factoring in a real budget. My budget is high but actually covers the full broad range of costs that I have been able to ascertain as been required, including a conservative budget on shipping which I think a lot of projects do not factor in correctly (shipping actually contributes to the funding goal on Kickstarter and often gets missed when people draw their figures up).

The problem that I have found with the limited custom approach as you have suggested as an alternative, is that the overheads are still the same for setting up the factory line (you still need the same moulds/tooling and assembly), and the result is a more expensive unit cost with higher costs for shipping and logistics due to smaller volumes.

Obviously there are always going to be unknowns and things that can't be planned for in the 'prototype to product' approach, I certainly am conscious of the risks personally. However I believe I have done everything I can to make sure I can deliver what I have set out to deliver!

Cheers
Mark