miglesi wrote:Lastly I prefer Kalita brews closer to 3 - 3:30.

Me, too. I use a 320:20 (16:1) ratio as a starting point with the KW. Drawdown is usually in that 3 - 3:30 range.

To the OP, you brewing temp is exactly where I'd want mine to.

The challenge with my travel kit in SLC is that I heat in an electric kettle, but pour out of a little goose neck kettle. So I'm way off boil when brewing at elevation, no matter how much I preheat everything.

This is at 0+10 on my Lido 3. How's this look?



Regarding brew times I've yet to be able to get over 2:30, even when going finer than what is pictured here. Regarding changing 1 thing at a time, I have been doing that, basically keeping everything the same and only adjusting grind size. I will continue down that road it sounds.

Keep going, You're still way to coarse.

I'd start around here:

This is a fun game. Luckily I have some old beans handy.

This is at 0+7.

That looks more like it.

Awesome, thanks! Hopefully this does it, this is uncharted territory for me in fineness so maybe that's what I've been doing wrong all along. Although this totally goes against what my taste buds have been telling me.

I'll post back in the am, I've already had way too much coffee today.

Sourness can be hard to distinguish from bitterness.

Here's a small tip: When in doubt, use 2x the water weight as your ground coffee weight for the bloom. And when you wet the grounds try to apply the water very controlled and slowly, so that nothing drips through. If you can do that, you know that the bloom is working as intended.

OK, good to know. I think I remember reading somewhere else that the bloom should result in little to no coffee dripping through. I've definitely not been getting that to happen, I will keep an eye on it tomorrow.

Hello dfinn - I had your exact same issue starting out with the 155. Might be controversial, but consider stirring (I stir from side to side, up and down 4x3 times) after bloom, and/or spinning whole vessel after last pour/before drawdown. I think that (and the ball park grind setting you're at - my Lido, with same burrs as yours, lives at 7 clicks) will help. But one variable at the time as the others have said. Good luck!

Much better! It's actually enjoyable to drink this morning.

I went with:

320:16 as Eastsideloco suggested
water right off boil so probably 203'ish
30s bloom with 50g water
pulse pours to 320
finished brewing at 3:17

It's pretty good although I'm not quite getting any of the flavors Bird Rock suggests for this particular bean (raspberry, citrus, hibiscus). I think I'll experiment going slightly finer until I get some negative tastes and then back off.

I really appreciate everyones help for getting me on the right track. It seems as though I can't trust my taste buds when it comes to sour vs bitter.

edit: when you guys are trying to dial in a grind, how much of an adjustment do you make each time you brew a new cup? Given that I'm on a Lido 3, do I go 1/4 of a click, 1/2 a click, full click?