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Please recommend grinder (not used) in $175-250 range for espresso and French press

Postby bob13bob on Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:38 pm

Looking to get the best grinds I can for my budget without going the used route. Been using $20 blade grinder.

Francis x5 espresso machine
Home roasted coffee beans.

Thanks in advance.
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Postby HB on Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:09 pm

The thread One Grinder for French Press and Espresso recommends the Baratza Vario, but that's outside your price range. The Preciso is a Virtuoso with finer adjustments for espresso; it's closer to your price range.
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Postby Randy G. on Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:41 pm

There are a number of grinders in that price range that will do French press *1, but few that are capable of excellent production for espresso which is, by far, more demanding. Best bet would be one of the better hand grinders for around $100 to 125 or so. After that, one of the Baratza offerings. Check their website as they do sell refurbs. Also, call 1st-Line and see what they have in returns, buyer's remorse, etc.

*1 - I just reviewed the new "Espro Press," and the coffee is such that I will never use a French press again as long as I have the Espro on hand.
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Postby Marc on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:01 am

The Virtuoso fits your budget, but stretching it to about 275-300$ you can get the virtuoso preciso, which is a lot more better for espresso.
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Postby RAS on Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:01 pm

Can't ever forget the workhorse Cunill Tranquilo. Depending on where you are in California, you may be able to go see one and buy it right there from Umberto. Great guy, and a grinder that's built like a tank.

http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
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Postby espressoStraight on Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:08 pm

+1

I have a Tranquilo and it's a great grinder. With your budget, I don't think you can beat it. (IMHO)

I originally thought that I would use it for both espresso and French press but I have only used it once for press coffee. It has been pretty much dedicated to espresso. (but to be fair - I don't drink much other than espresso these days.)
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Postby yakster on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:39 pm

I recommend a refurbished Baratza Virtuoso for French Press and either the Porlex or Kyocera Ceramic Coffee Grinder CM-45 CF (not the Kyocera CM-50) hand grinder for espresso. You should be able to get both grinders and stay within budget.

The hand grinders have nice, ceramic burrs and while are not ideal for espresso, they do a good job. They're available from Orphan Espresso and they carry spare parts for the Kyocera CM-45 CF if you need them (I dropped my grinder and chipped the cap and also after about a year of use the pentagon shaped cut-out in the handle started to get worn and loose so I replaced that too). They're great for traveling and I use mine for coffee while camping and for espresso at work with the MyPressi Twist.

Another option is one of the nice re-built hand grinders that Orphan Espresso sells... they have a nice KYM available that looks tempting, if I hadn't already blown my coffee budget for this year. Last year I bought the La Peppina spring lever and Kyocera grinder and this year I got the Baratza Vario grinder.

You could probably try just the Kyocera for both French Press and Espresso if you're a big fan of hand-grinding. I've even heard some people hook up electric screwdrivers to the hand grinder, but I didn't want to mess with that.

Unfortunately, there aren't too many good options in your price range that will work for both press pot and espresso. I suffered for quite a while with a horrible false-burr grinder for coffee while I saved up money to get something better to do both espresso and press pot / syphon and finally purchased the Baratza Vario that I've been very happy with so far. I had originally planned to get the Baratza Virtuoso Preciso, but delays in the release of this product and my growing impatience for a new grinder (too many vac pot stalls) convinced me that it would be worth it to spend the extra money and go with the B. Vario.

In the end, it's your decision. If you can afford to upgrade to the Vario, or delay your purchase while you save your money, then you may be happier and be able to get one grinder that will serve all your needs.
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Postby klemenv on Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:16 am

You should purchase Vario.

I have purchased 200$ grinder for french press and espresso. 2 month later I was buying another grinder.
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Postby jamoke on Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:00 am

I've had my Tranquilo for several months now, and can add another recommendation. I've used it for espresso and drip (don't have a press).
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